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  • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

    @HunterZ @cmconseils I worked in the smart street lighting business for a while and was mildly astonished to find that 50% of the "street lights" in the USA aren't in streets at all but in car parks.

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    @TimWardCam @cmconseils sadly this doesn't surprise me, especially since roads are no exception to our public services funding allergy.

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      @cmconseils

      Covering fields with solar arrays makes farming and conservation sense. The key point is the area beneath the panels should either be farmed as agrivoltaics or be maintained as a protected wildlife area. Shade is an important aid to biodiversity. Approvals should be appropriately conditioned.

      Golf courses are far more extensive and a biodiversity desert.

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        @cmconseils California has been aggressively expanding the use of "solar canopies" or "solar carports" to cover car parks for a number of years. California is also pioneering a dual-purpose strategy to stretch its water supply. By building solar canopies over major irrigation networks—such as the federally backed Project Nexus in the Central Valley farming communities. #Agrivoltaics

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        • deberupts@mastodon.socialD deberupts@mastodon.social

          @cmconseils California has been aggressively expanding the use of "solar canopies" or "solar carports" to cover car parks for a number of years. California is also pioneering a dual-purpose strategy to stretch its water supply. By building solar canopies over major irrigation networks—such as the federally backed Project Nexus in the Central Valley farming communities. #Agrivoltaics

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          @DebErupts @cmconseils YES! I thought it was clever the first time I saw one at a school. Dual purpose! Provides shade for the cars -- the San Joaquin Valley of California is about as hot as the Sun in the summer -- and provides electricity! Win-win! 🥳

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            @cmconseils
            Yes!
            Also this: https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/solar-panel-covered-canals-have-their-day-sun-california

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              @cmconseils These go great over cycleways, particularly in sun-belt cities with long dedicated bike highways. Like Tulsa.

              Basically I'm tilting at the ether for Tulsa to cover the crosstown cycleways in solar panels so they're not such a gruelling slog when you do need to use most of their length

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              • baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.usB baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.us

                @cmconseils These go great over cycleways, particularly in sun-belt cities with long dedicated bike highways. Like Tulsa.

                Basically I'm tilting at the ether for Tulsa to cover the crosstown cycleways in solar panels so they're not such a gruelling slog when you do need to use most of their length

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                @BalooUriza Tulsa launched Ideas for Change after Tulsa Decides already did the thing. Your guess is as good as mine if anything will happen with the proposals. First guess, it’s a convenient place to punt people to so City Hall doesn’t have to do anything, like change.org in general.

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                • fahrni@curmudgeon.cafeF fahrni@curmudgeon.cafe

                  @DebErupts @cmconseils YES! I thought it was clever the first time I saw one at a school. Dual purpose! Provides shade for the cars -- the San Joaquin Valley of California is about as hot as the Sun in the summer -- and provides electricity! Win-win! 🥳

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                  @fahrni @DebErupts @cmconseils
                  And then you get the whiners here that complain that they took out 5 parking spaces to put them in over one of the universities in their employee lot.

                  Oh no! Carpool? Take the bus? The bus line goes right past the school.

                  E: I swear I speak English. I have no idea what’s going on in the first paragraph. 🤦‍♀️

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                  • reiddragon@fedi.catto.gardenR reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden
                    @cmconseils why tf would they even cover fields outside of having a nice background for the photoshoot? It makes a lot more sense to cover up parking lots or buildings.
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                    @reiddragon @cmconseils no, it works on fields too, depending on what you're growing. it can increase yields (and sheep and pigs benefit from the shade)

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                    • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                      @reiddragon @cmconseils no, it works on fields too, depending on what you're growing. it can increase yields (and sheep and pigs benefit from the shade)

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                      @fishidwardrobe @cmconseils You'll need to explain how it would increase yields
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                      • reiddragon@fedi.catto.gardenR reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden
                        @fishidwardrobe @cmconseils You'll need to explain how it would increase yields
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                        @reiddragon @cmconseils i really don't. i'm not the one making the claim, i'm just reporting that others have made it credibly.

                        but, here you go, someone else responding linked to two articles. did you see that?

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                        @cmconseils@mastodon.social I'm all for covering car parks with solar panels, but in some cases mixing solar with crops seems to actually _help_ crop yields! eg: https://www.euro-inox.org/solar-powered-smart-farming-how-agrivoltaics-boost-crop-yields/ https://commongoodnews.org/inspiring/highlight-of-the-week-significant-good-news/

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                        • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                          @reiddragon @cmconseils i really don't. i'm not the one making the claim, i'm just reporting that others have made it credibly.

                          but, here you go, someone else responding linked to two articles. did you see that?

                          Sundew (@sundew@beige.party)

                          @cmconseils@mastodon.social I'm all for covering car parks with solar panels, but in some cases mixing solar with crops seems to actually _help_ crop yields! eg: https://www.euro-inox.org/solar-powered-smart-farming-how-agrivoltaics-boost-crop-yields/ https://commongoodnews.org/inspiring/highlight-of-the-week-significant-good-news/

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                          @fishidwardrobe @cmconseils

                          > i really don't. i'm not the one making the claim, i'm just reporting that others have made it credibly.

                          The way you made the initial claim didn't state "someone else made this claim and I'm echoing that, make of that what you will". You stated it as fact so yes, you *do* need to explain it if it's unclear to your interlocutor how it works.
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                          • jollyrogue@social.tulsa.ok.usJ jollyrogue@social.tulsa.ok.us

                            @BalooUriza Tulsa launched Ideas for Change after Tulsa Decides already did the thing. Your guess is as good as mine if anything will happen with the proposals. First guess, it’s a convenient place to punt people to so City Hall doesn’t have to do anything, like change.org in general.

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                            A participatory budgeting pilot. It's your money, you decide.

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                            TulsaDecides (tulsadecides.org)

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                            @jollyrogue Looks like Tulsa Decides is the city website and IfC is the change.org one

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                            • reiddragon@fedi.catto.gardenR reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden
                              @fishidwardrobe @cmconseils

                              > i really don't. i'm not the one making the claim, i'm just reporting that others have made it credibly.

                              The way you made the initial claim didn't state "someone else made this claim and I'm echoing that, make of that what you will". You stated it as fact so yes, you *do* need to explain it if it's unclear to your interlocutor how it works.
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                              @reiddragon @cmconseils i'm not doing your homework for you, mate. i don't owe you anything.

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                              • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                @reiddragon @cmconseils i'm not doing your homework for you, mate. i don't owe you anything.

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                                @fishidwardrobe @cmconseils maybe don't get involved in a conversation if right after you decide you don't feel like actually engaging

                                asshole
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                                • baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.usB baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.us

                                  @jollyrogue Looks like Tulsa Decides is the city website and IfC is the change.org one

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                                  @BalooUriza IfC is the official one, and it’s a branded instance of change.org.

                                  Tulsa Decides is a citizen group unaffiliated with the city.

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                                  • reiddragon@fedi.catto.gardenR reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden
                                    @fishidwardrobe @cmconseils maybe don't get involved in a conversation if right after you decide you don't feel like actually engaging

                                    asshole
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                                    @reiddragon @cmconseils did you read the two articles? asshole?

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                                    • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                      @reiddragon @cmconseils did you read the two articles? asshole?

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                                      @cmconseils weird how he was picking on me and ignoring all the other replies that said the same thing. oh well. blockity blockity block.

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                                      • pomegranate_stew@kind.socialP pomegranate_stew@kind.social

                                        @fahrni @DebErupts @cmconseils
                                        And then you get the whiners here that complain that they took out 5 parking spaces to put them in over one of the universities in their employee lot.

                                        Oh no! Carpool? Take the bus? The bus line goes right past the school.

                                        E: I swear I speak English. I have no idea what’s going on in the first paragraph. 🤦‍♀️

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                                        @pomegranate_stew @fahrni @cmconseils You can't please everyone. And if farmers want to utilize solar or lease their land for solar, it's their right. Farmers are hurting due to Trump tariffs and policies.

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                                          @cmconseils Et bien disons que les voitures sont plus présentes dans les villes que dans les campagnes... Et qu'avec l'augmentation du nombre de voitures électriques il est peut être plus judicieux de créer de l'électricité au moment où les voitures sont stationnées, pour permettre la recharge. Directement du producteur au consommateur, en générant moins de câbles et de structures d'acheminement...

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