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#luddites : "WAAH LLMs eat the planet with huge energy hungry Datacentres !!!!"

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    #luddites : "WAAH LLMs eat the planet with huge energy hungry Datacentres !!!!"

    #Google : Here is one that runs on 4 watts of power of your prayer tablet.

    #luddites : (Waaah ambulacing intensifies)

    Time to admit it was never about Planet destroying #Ai but your reluctance to learn new shit and hanging out with all the Kool kids, dancing around the bonfires in the woods?

    #gemininano

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      #luddites : "WAAH LLMs eat the planet with huge energy hungry Datacentres !!!!"

      #Google : Here is one that runs on 4 watts of power of your prayer tablet.

      #luddites : (Waaah ambulacing intensifies)

      Time to admit it was never about Planet destroying #Ai but your reluctance to learn new shit and hanging out with all the Kool kids, dancing around the bonfires in the woods?

      #gemininano

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      @n_dimension I don't get what you mean. Running the LLMs is not the issue, especially if they're lightweight, you and I know. Of course you can run a lightweight model on a low ressource price tag. The training of LLMs is ressource hungry as hell. This is what a large part of the ressources of datacentres are being used for.

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        @n_dimension I don't get what you mean. Running the LLMs is not the issue, especially if they're lightweight, you and I know. Of course you can run a lightweight model on a low ressource price tag. The training of LLMs is ressource hungry as hell. This is what a large part of the ressources of datacentres are being used for.

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        @bhg @n_dimension

        Once we dissect the truly colossal power consumption involved in training these beasts, the staggering inefficiencies of the MAC operation == multiply and accumulate, the Really Big Story is how the indexers are address the power consumption:

        Algorithm efficiency is a big story right now: DeepSeek's V3 model reportedly cost just $5.576 million to train and used only around 2,000 chips, where competitors were using 16,000+.

        As one Rhodium Group analyst put it, DeepSeek "demonstrates that training high-performance models can take far less electricity than previously thought." The catch, as some researchers note, is that cheaper training may just unleash more demand overall: Jevon's Paradox

        https://www.axios.com/2025/01/28/deepseek-ai-model-energy-power-demand

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