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https://fediscience.org/@petergleick/116262961931996789china is gonna end up winning on science purely because the us lost the narrative.

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    https://fediscience.org/@petergleick/116262961931996789
    china is gonna end up winning on science purely because the us lost the narrative. ground level americans believed american exceptionalism was innate and nonfungible, everything happens here simply because it does. a portion of them had their neurons slushed by right wing/religious propaganda and made them turn against the concept. any other society that wants to pick up slack doesn't really have to do much more than invest in the concept

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      https://fediscience.org/@petergleick/116262961931996789
      china is gonna end up winning on science purely because the us lost the narrative. ground level americans believed american exceptionalism was innate and nonfungible, everything happens here simply because it does. a portion of them had their neurons slushed by right wing/religious propaganda and made them turn against the concept. any other society that wants to pick up slack doesn't really have to do much more than invest in the concept

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      the american narrative does have a china problem, but it's mostly just that china doesn't actually behave like the cartoon villain they need it to. in reality, china is just very good at managing their objectives, both the good and the shitty ones. by contrast, american leaders are, at any given time, each trying to build a mud castle from the top down. it's raining and they're somehow blaming it on everyone telling them not to do it in the rain.

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        the american narrative does have a china problem, but it's mostly just that china doesn't actually behave like the cartoon villain they need it to. in reality, china is just very good at managing their objectives, both the good and the shitty ones. by contrast, american leaders are, at any given time, each trying to build a mud castle from the top down. it's raining and they're somehow blaming it on everyone telling them not to do it in the rain.

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        we can't have science because we need to spend all our money and energy on cops, racism, and banning trans people from the bathroom. and education is woke anyway. and "dei" means we have to tell a bunch of our great scientists and engineers to gtfo. and we have american exceptionalism so who knows where all this value we used to have came from in the first place, we simply have it. if these people ever finish their mud castle they're gonna plant an american flag in it, look smugly at the rest of the world going over the horizon, and look down to see that it's fallen apart

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          we can't have science because we need to spend all our money and energy on cops, racism, and banning trans people from the bathroom. and education is woke anyway. and "dei" means we have to tell a bunch of our great scientists and engineers to gtfo. and we have american exceptionalism so who knows where all this value we used to have came from in the first place, we simply have it. if these people ever finish their mud castle they're gonna plant an american flag in it, look smugly at the rest of the world going over the horizon, and look down to see that it's fallen apart

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          i live in a state and am in an economic situation where i can go to school Pretty cheaply, even when i transfer to a proper university it looks like. what does it mean to have this here? incredible burden of proof to be eligible for that situation. funding that isn't comprehensive for other things, so who knows how im gonna afford auxiliary stuff like "eating" (or end up in debt, in this economic system). a culture centered only on economic production; how is anyone supposed to say that pursuing science and research is a viable career for them when you have to make six figures just to live Mostly okay? who is doing our research for us now? apparently, we're so americanly exceptional that it will just happen, or maybe we don't even need it in the first place

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            i live in a state and am in an economic situation where i can go to school Pretty cheaply, even when i transfer to a proper university it looks like. what does it mean to have this here? incredible burden of proof to be eligible for that situation. funding that isn't comprehensive for other things, so who knows how im gonna afford auxiliary stuff like "eating" (or end up in debt, in this economic system). a culture centered only on economic production; how is anyone supposed to say that pursuing science and research is a viable career for them when you have to make six figures just to live Mostly okay? who is doing our research for us now? apparently, we're so americanly exceptional that it will just happen, or maybe we don't even need it in the first place

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            when i was a kid i played through pokemon silver using only my starter. i only gave it damage moves because wtf are those other moves even for, they don't do anything. i had to grind for who knows how long to get it to like level 80 to be able to pull that off, and im pretty sure i used a full inventory of hyper potions. i was 9 when pokemon sapphire came out and i figured out then that not only is a full team advantageous, but those 'nothing moves' actually do useful stuff. so forgive me for being a little annoyed seeing worse systemic thinking than 9 year old kira had with her pokemon team

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              when i was a kid i played through pokemon silver using only my starter. i only gave it damage moves because wtf are those other moves even for, they don't do anything. i had to grind for who knows how long to get it to like level 80 to be able to pull that off, and im pretty sure i used a full inventory of hyper potions. i was 9 when pokemon sapphire came out and i figured out then that not only is a full team advantageous, but those 'nothing moves' actually do useful stuff. so forgive me for being a little annoyed seeing worse systemic thinking than 9 year old kira had with her pokemon team

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              never gonna forget that breloom, first pokemon i trained who wasn't my starter

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