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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

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    Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

    New borders:
    Bachy 🇫🇷 - Tournai 🇧🇪

    Borders already crossed:
    Antwerpen Centraal 🇧🇪 - Rotterdam Centraal 🇳🇱

    France to Netherlands, taking in one of the final #CrossBorderRail lines I am missing at the France-Belgium border, the former Orchies to Tournai line.

    Today's routes on the routes map:
    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#7/50.108607/3.781875

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      Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

      New borders:
      Bachy 🇫🇷 - Tournai 🇧🇪

      Borders already crossed:
      Antwerpen Centraal 🇧🇪 - Rotterdam Centraal 🇳🇱

      France to Netherlands, taking in one of the final #CrossBorderRail lines I am missing at the France-Belgium border, the former Orchies to Tournai line.

      Today's routes on the routes map:
      https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#7/50.108607/3.781875

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      Here's today's #CrossBorderRail intro video https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/q43wxMi1MiPck4MhZM2qZT

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Here's today's #CrossBorderRail intro video https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/q43wxMi1MiPck4MhZM2qZT

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        Also here's a bit of reading material for you this morning, with plenty of #CrossBorderRail themes in it: my extra newsletter, sent out yesterday https://jonworth.eu/tgv-les-laumes-alesia-asterix-is-having-a-laugh/

        Stories from France, Czechia, Germany and Denmark!

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Also here's a bit of reading material for you this morning, with plenty of #CrossBorderRail themes in it: my extra newsletter, sent out yesterday https://jonworth.eu/tgv-les-laumes-alesia-asterix-is-having-a-laugh/

          Stories from France, Czechia, Germany and Denmark!

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          #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 13 of 80
          TER 17750
          06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy 08:38
          SNCF for TER Mobigo

          Train type: Alstom Régiolis EMU, 2x 6 short carriages
          ⚡️ (1.5kV dc)
          🚲: ✅
          🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows, Nuits doesn’t, Bercy does)
          🛜: ⛔️
          🍽️: ⛔️
          🧳: 🙂
          🧽: 😐 (grimy windows)
          Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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            #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 13 of 80
            TER 17750
            06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy 08:38
            SNCF for TER Mobigo

            Train type: Alstom Régiolis EMU, 2x 6 short carriages
            ⚡️ (1.5kV dc)
            🚲: ✅
            🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows, Nuits doesn’t, Bercy does)
            🛜: ⛔️
            🍽️: ⛔️
            🧳: 🙂
            🧽: 😐 (grimy windows)
            Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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            TER 17750
            06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy 08:38

            Distance: 224.5km
            Average speed: 98km/h (reduced average as it uses the slow line Montereau-Melun)

            6 stops:
            Tonnerre
            St-Florentin-Vergigny
            Laroche-Migennes
            Joigny
            Sens
            Paris-Bercy

            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.287249/3.297270

            #CrossBorderRail

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              TER 17750
              06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy 08:38

              Distance: 224.5km
              Average speed: 98km/h (reduced average as it uses the slow line Montereau-Melun)

              6 stops:
              Tonnerre
              St-Florentin-Vergigny
              Laroche-Migennes
              Joigny
              Sens
              Paris-Bercy

              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.287249/3.297270

              #CrossBorderRail

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              And why am I heading towards Netherlands (other than to visit more #CrossBorderRail borders, obviously!)

              Tomorrow I am speaking at RailTech Europe in Utrecht (about my #CrossChannelRail work) and then meeting the other founders of @erpu (@redjives @patrick @partim) in Utrecht - public meeting, others very welcome!

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                And why am I heading towards Netherlands (other than to visit more #CrossBorderRail borders, obviously!)

                Tomorrow I am speaking at RailTech Europe in Utrecht (about my #CrossChannelRail work) and then meeting the other founders of @erpu (@redjives @patrick @partim) in Utrecht - public meeting, others very welcome!

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                Musing about bumpy ride quality on trains this morning

                As ever I am on a Régiolis EMU to Paris this morning - an Alstom design, now owned by CAF

                These trains have a rather jerky, bumpy sort of ride, and the suspension makes clanking noises all the time (not just today)

                Are the jabobs bogies between carriages poorly designed?

                Wdyt @hopla @wrzlbrnft ?

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Musing about bumpy ride quality on trains this morning

                  As ever I am on a Régiolis EMU to Paris this morning - an Alstom design, now owned by CAF

                  These trains have a rather jerky, bumpy sort of ride, and the suspension makes clanking noises all the time (not just today)

                  Are the jabobs bogies between carriages poorly designed?

                  Wdyt @hopla @wrzlbrnft ?

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                  Waving metaphorically to @ffeth at Sens

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                    Waving metaphorically to @ffeth at Sens

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                    @jon hiii!

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Here's today's #CrossBorderRail intro video https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/q43wxMi1MiPck4MhZM2qZT

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                      @jon sudden cliffhanger at the end 😂

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Musing about bumpy ride quality on trains this morning

                        As ever I am on a Régiolis EMU to Paris this morning - an Alstom design, now owned by CAF

                        These trains have a rather jerky, bumpy sort of ride, and the suspension makes clanking noises all the time (not just today)

                        Are the jabobs bogies between carriages poorly designed?

                        Wdyt @hopla @wrzlbrnft ?

                        hopla@zug.networkH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

                        The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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                        • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                          @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

                          The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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                          @hopla I am not sure the AGC is much different, or at least not better! Those also rock sideways more!

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                            @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

                            The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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                            @hopla Also it must be said that this line ought to be an Intercités really. The Régiolis does a steady 150km/h for long sections here. And it is not really designed as that sort of train...

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                              @hopla I am not sure the AGC is much different, or at least not better! Those also rock sideways more!

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                              @jon rollercoaster ride at a fraction of the cost of an Europa Park ticket ✨
                              That said, I'm thinking of something: "track deformation slow creep": when a train track deteriorates over time but just slow enough so that train drivers doing it daily don't immediately notice something abnormal developing and thus don't report it for the infra operator to go check the geometry with measurement engines outside scheduled audits. (the budget to do any fixing about it is another story)

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                                @hopla Also it must be said that this line ought to be an Intercités really. The Régiolis does a steady 150km/h for long sections here. And it is not really designed as that sort of train...

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                                @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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                                  @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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                                  @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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                                    Waving metaphorically to @ffeth at Sens

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                                    Made it across Paris in one piece

                                    The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                                      Made it across Paris in one piece

                                      The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                                      And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                                        Made it across Paris in one piece

                                        The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                                        @jon

                                        C'est vrai!

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                                          And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                                          @jon "Monsieur vous ne pouvez pas attendre sur les quais!" is my typical gare du nord experience

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