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The Conversation: How should schools teach AI?

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    The Conversation: How should schools teach AI? 3 models to consider https://theconversation.com/how-should-schools-teach-ai-3-models-to-consider-278041 @TheConversationUS

    The UN reference is from 2024:

    UNESCO: AI competency framework for students https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000391105 #education

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      The Conversation: How should schools teach AI? 3 models to consider https://theconversation.com/how-should-schools-teach-ai-3-models-to-consider-278041 @TheConversationUS

      The UN reference is from 2024:

      UNESCO: AI competency framework for students https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000391105 #education

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      @AAKL @TheConversationUS

      "Grounded in a vision of students as AI co-creators and responsible citizens, the framework emphasizes critical judgement of AI solutions, awareness of citizenship responsibilities in the era of AI, foundational AI knowledge for lifelong learning, and inclusive, sustainable AI design."

      You can't do critical judgement when you learn your foundational knowledge from an AI that specifically makes factual errors. There are places where AI creates efficiency but without expertise you will not be competent to perform critical judgement.

      As an example, the assignment was to write an essay citing four sources. The students were to identify peer reviewed published papers, download a PDF of each and annotate the PDF so that we could follow their thought process for each citation. Several students out of 40 or so indicated that they couldn't include the PDF because "they couldn't find it" or "the link didn't work".

      In all of those cases the citations had Claude Errors where the elements of the citation jumbled up due to tokenized data. The students hadn't read the PDFs because they weren't able to use the doi numbers to get to the PDFs (if they were even going that far on their own), that indicated that they didn't do the work so 0 for the citations, a little credit for the topics being cited because we don't know whether they did SOME thinking or simply offloaded all of the cognitive work to AI.

      That's not learning and students who do this will be dependent on AI and never able to perform critical judgement of what it spits out. Foundational knowledge has to be acquired through the learning process we evolved to use and not offloaded to a machine.

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        @AAKL @TheConversationUS

        "Grounded in a vision of students as AI co-creators and responsible citizens, the framework emphasizes critical judgement of AI solutions, awareness of citizenship responsibilities in the era of AI, foundational AI knowledge for lifelong learning, and inclusive, sustainable AI design."

        You can't do critical judgement when you learn your foundational knowledge from an AI that specifically makes factual errors. There are places where AI creates efficiency but without expertise you will not be competent to perform critical judgement.

        As an example, the assignment was to write an essay citing four sources. The students were to identify peer reviewed published papers, download a PDF of each and annotate the PDF so that we could follow their thought process for each citation. Several students out of 40 or so indicated that they couldn't include the PDF because "they couldn't find it" or "the link didn't work".

        In all of those cases the citations had Claude Errors where the elements of the citation jumbled up due to tokenized data. The students hadn't read the PDFs because they weren't able to use the doi numbers to get to the PDFs (if they were even going that far on their own), that indicated that they didn't do the work so 0 for the citations, a little credit for the topics being cited because we don't know whether they did SOME thinking or simply offloaded all of the cognitive work to AI.

        That's not learning and students who do this will be dependent on AI and never able to perform critical judgement of what it spits out. Foundational knowledge has to be acquired through the learning process we evolved to use and not offloaded to a machine.

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        @mycotropic @TheConversationUS I agree. The bedrock, completely devoid of AI, should to be critical thinking. after that, you start introducing this horrible AI business. Yes, I know people think it's "magic," that it's their new buddy, that it's the new oracle, but for all of these things to be true, human cognition will atrophy and change into something else.

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