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I'm not enjoying the future where we pick between unmaintained but no AI fork or maintained but Claude was here repo

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  • theresnotime@fox.nexusT theresnotime@fox.nexus

    I'm not enjoying the future where we pick between unmaintained but no AI fork or maintained but Claude was here repo

    fiore@brain.worm.pinkF This user is from outside of this forum
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    fiore@brain.worm.pink
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    @theresnotime@fox.nexus i was bitching about this just this morning . "pre ai fork" bro if i wanted to pin to a specific commit i can do that myself , thats what git is for 😭

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    • theresnotime@fox.nexusT theresnotime@fox.nexus

      I'm not enjoying the future where we pick between unmaintained but no AI fork or maintained but Claude was here repo

      lunareclipse@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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      @theresnotime the consequences of our society failing to solve the "one guy in nebraska" problem of open source are becoming very apparent now

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      • theresnotime@fox.nexusT theresnotime@fox.nexus

        I'm not enjoying the future where we pick between unmaintained but no AI fork or maintained but Claude was here repo

        theresnotime@fox.nexusT This user is from outside of this forum
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        theresnotime@fox.nexus
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        because, being real here, these sorts of forks are going to be abandoned irrespective of how noble your intentions are, solely because the people doing the forks are often not the people who had an interest in contributing before

        you are not going to develop an interest in contributing to a codebase just because upstream started using genAI 😞

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        • theresnotime@fox.nexusT theresnotime@fox.nexus

          I'm not enjoying the future where we pick between unmaintained but no AI fork or maintained but Claude was here repo

          brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5
          there's also the occasional gem that needs no fork as they have a no-ai policy, eg snac put that in their guidelines just today πŸ™‚

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          • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

            @theresnotime@fox.nexus i was bitching about this just this morning . "pre ai fork" bro if i wanted to pin to a specific commit i can do that myself , thats what git is for 😭

            coolbean@brain.worm.pinkC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @fiore @theresnotime the biggest problem ive got is like... objectively this does probably maybe void the license meaning packaging versions of vim past that commit is uh... legally dubious and may be avoided by some distros
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            • theresnotime@fox.nexusT theresnotime@fox.nexus

              because, being real here, these sorts of forks are going to be abandoned irrespective of how noble your intentions are, solely because the people doing the forks are often not the people who had an interest in contributing before

              you are not going to develop an interest in contributing to a codebase just because upstream started using genAI 😞

              scarlet@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @theresnotime Real tbh. Because by the aims of the fork, they won't take upstream patches like many of the successful β€œX but without Y” forks have in the past (see Firefox and Chrome forks).

              Unless they're able to sway existing contributors over or are willing to step up and dedicate real effort to working on the project, the capability and bug drift will get real very quickly (not to mention security patch drift).

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              • coolbean@brain.worm.pinkC coolbean@brain.worm.pink
                @fiore @theresnotime the biggest problem ive got is like... objectively this does probably maybe void the license meaning packaging versions of vim past that commit is uh... legally dubious and may be avoided by some distros
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                @coolbean @theresnotime@fox.nexus vims license isnt voidrd you just have to include it and tell people to sejd money to uganda or smth

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                • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

                  @coolbean @theresnotime@fox.nexus vims license isnt voidrd you just have to include it and tell people to sejd money to uganda or smth

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                  @fiore @coolbean @theresnotime every license should require this tbh

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                  • fiore@brain.worm.pinkF fiore@brain.worm.pink

                    @coolbean @theresnotime@fox.nexus vims license isnt voidrd you just have to include it and tell people to sejd money to uganda or smth

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                    the old vim maintainer who was championing for that died, iirc the notice got removed from vim and the charity got disbanded bcs he was actually the only reason they still existed. or smth like that, i remember seeing a post like "if you still wanna send money, send to this other charity in usa instead"

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                    • eris@p.enes.lvE eris@p.enes.lv
                      the old vim maintainer who was championing for that died, iirc the notice got removed from vim and the charity got disbanded bcs he was actually the only reason they still existed. or smth like that, i remember seeing a post like "if you still wanna send money, send to this other charity in usa instead"

                      CC: @coolbean@brain.worm.pink @theresnotime@fox.nexus
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                      @eris @fiore @theresnotime i use nvi Version 1.79 (10/23/96) The CSRG, University of California, Berkeley.
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                      • coolbean@brain.worm.pinkC coolbean@brain.worm.pink
                        @eris @fiore @theresnotime i use nvi Version 1.79 (10/23/96) The CSRG, University of California, Berkeley.
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                        @eris @fiore @theresnotime im immune to ai slop because my text editor hasnt been updated in 30 years
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                        • theresnotime@fox.nexusT theresnotime@fox.nexus

                          I'm not enjoying the future where we pick between unmaintained but no AI fork or maintained but Claude was here repo

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                          @theresnotime loading github code into work projects, while checking the repo is pre-AI but not too old πŸ˜•

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