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  3. Basically we either use PINCH and run HEALTHILY on dopamine and noradrenaline by making every boring task interesting

Basically we either use PINCH and run HEALTHILY on dopamine and noradrenaline by making every boring task interesting

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  • maikel@vmst.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Basically we either use PINCH and run HEALTHILY on dopamine and noradrenaline by making every boring task interesting

    OR

    we wait for adrenaline and cortisol, run on anxiety and experience the usual cycles highs and lows.

    That's what I'm getting from all I'm reading from actual psychiatrist with ADHD.

    You reap what you saw
    PINCH: joy, calm, happiness.
    STRESS: chronic fatigue syndrome and burn out.

    Sometimes things are indeed a binary choice. And it won't matter whether you're medicated or not, you still have to choose the last mile. Meds only get you so far.

    @actuallyadhd

    #ADHD #MorningThoughts

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    • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

      Basically we either use PINCH and run HEALTHILY on dopamine and noradrenaline by making every boring task interesting

      OR

      we wait for adrenaline and cortisol, run on anxiety and experience the usual cycles highs and lows.

      That's what I'm getting from all I'm reading from actual psychiatrist with ADHD.

      You reap what you saw
      PINCH: joy, calm, happiness.
      STRESS: chronic fatigue syndrome and burn out.

      Sometimes things are indeed a binary choice. And it won't matter whether you're medicated or not, you still have to choose the last mile. Meds only get you so far.

      @actuallyadhd

      #ADHD #MorningThoughts

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      @maikel

      I am currently trying to work out how to integrate PINCH into my day to day in order to get things done.

      It is proving most difficult with external things that I am not really bothered about but have to get done, which is where I need to use it most.

      As I am currently deliberately unmedicated for the ADHD it is vital that I get this sorted. I am trying to bear in mind that often things that work, only work for a short time and then new coping strategies are needed before I fall off into the stress responses again.

      Anyway, good luck with it! Here'shoping we both find our paths through this!

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        @maikel

        I am currently trying to work out how to integrate PINCH into my day to day in order to get things done.

        It is proving most difficult with external things that I am not really bothered about but have to get done, which is where I need to use it most.

        As I am currently deliberately unmedicated for the ADHD it is vital that I get this sorted. I am trying to bear in mind that often things that work, only work for a short time and then new coping strategies are needed before I fall off into the stress responses again.

        Anyway, good luck with it! Here'shoping we both find our paths through this!

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        @PetraPhoenix good luck to you too.

        What external things are you struggling with ?

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        • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

          @PetraPhoenix good luck to you too.

          What external things are you struggling with ?

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          @maikel

          I am studying for my degree, so I have essays to write with fixed deadlines.
          Even though I am finding the topic fascinating, getting myself to start writing something I know will be critically assessed is incredibly difficult.
          I have tried working in different places, positions, alongside others, all sorts, and each thing will work for a short time, and then stops working.

          If I try to reincorporate something too soon, it isn't novel enough and doesn't work.

          Thankfully I am nearly finished - I could just do without the stress cycle that accompanies each submission date

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            @maikel

            I am studying for my degree, so I have essays to write with fixed deadlines.
            Even though I am finding the topic fascinating, getting myself to start writing something I know will be critically assessed is incredibly difficult.
            I have tried working in different places, positions, alongside others, all sorts, and each thing will work for a short time, and then stops working.

            If I try to reincorporate something too soon, it isn't novel enough and doesn't work.

            Thankfully I am nearly finished - I could just do without the stress cycle that accompanies each submission date

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            @PetraPhoenix let me be redundant but it is interesting than using interest is not working. What I find about PINCH that applies to myself is that there's critical parts of it for me to get me to do something and parts that don't work at all depending on circumstances.

            For example I crave zero novelty to do stuff, novelty won't get me to do shit. But I definitely love a challenge, or doing something against a clock. So the CH work for me more than the PIN

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              @PetraPhoenix let me be redundant but it is interesting than using interest is not working. What I find about PINCH that applies to myself is that there's critical parts of it for me to get me to do something and parts that don't work at all depending on circumstances.

              For example I crave zero novelty to do stuff, novelty won't get me to do shit. But I definitely love a challenge, or doing something against a clock. So the CH work for me more than the PIN

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              @PetraPhoenix also you've got to consider the anti-pinch.

              - pain (physical) or illness.
              - boredom
              - distractions
              - overwhelm
              - perfectionism

              Which one of those is sucking up your energy?

              (I seriously need to make myself a drawing with these five)

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                @PetraPhoenix also you've got to consider the anti-pinch.

                - pain (physical) or illness.
                - boredom
                - distractions
                - overwhelm
                - perfectionism

                Which one of those is sucking up your energy?

                (I seriously need to make myself a drawing with these five)

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                @PetraPhoenix to me it looks like overwhelm because of the awareness of being assessed on it AND perfectionism for the same reason.

                Can I suggest a first step to try ? The one that generally works for me. I hate unrequested advice so I rather ask you first.

                Troubleshooting what works and not for you can help me too.

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                • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

                  @PetraPhoenix also you've got to consider the anti-pinch.

                  - pain (physical) or illness.
                  - boredom
                  - distractions
                  - overwhelm
                  - perfectionism

                  Which one of those is sucking up your energy?

                  (I seriously need to make myself a drawing with these five)

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                  @maikel

                  Ooh, this is very interesting

                  Of these:

                  - pain (physical) or illness.
                  - boredom
                  - distractions
                  - overwhelm
                  - perfectionism

                  4 are relevant.

                  Hmm, this is really something to consider!

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                    @maikel

                    Ooh, this is very interesting

                    Of these:

                    - pain (physical) or illness.
                    - boredom
                    - distractions
                    - overwhelm
                    - perfectionism

                    4 are relevant.

                    Hmm, this is really something to consider!

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                    @PetraPhoenix regarding the one, I'm extremely sensitive to temperature or comfort and I've noticed I concentrate a lot deeper when I take my weighted blanket from my bed and throw it on my legs (when I'm working from a shitty IKEA Peyo chair on my laptop because my back hurts, which happens daily) but the thing that works best for your case and mine, that one I'll tell you if you want me to.

                    Do you want me to say that one ?

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                    • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

                      @PetraPhoenix regarding the one, I'm extremely sensitive to temperature or comfort and I've noticed I concentrate a lot deeper when I take my weighted blanket from my bed and throw it on my legs (when I'm working from a shitty IKEA Peyo chair on my laptop because my back hurts, which happens daily) but the thing that works best for your case and mine, that one I'll tell you if you want me to.

                      Do you want me to say that one ?

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                      @maikel

                      Yeah, go for it.

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                      • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

                        @PetraPhoenix to me it looks like overwhelm because of the awareness of being assessed on it AND perfectionism for the same reason.

                        Can I suggest a first step to try ? The one that generally works for me. I hate unrequested advice so I rather ask you first.

                        Troubleshooting what works and not for you can help me too.

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                        @maikel

                        Thank you for asking first. This is very thoughtful, but yes, I would love to hear your thoughts. If the advice works for me I will use it, if not, I wont.

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                        • petraphoenix@beige.partyP petraphoenix@beige.party

                          @maikel

                          Yeah, go for it.

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                          @PetraPhoenix

                          Do it
                          WRONG

                          You could have a first shitty copy of your assessment today, right ? It's not one that you have to deliver.

                          Then iterate over the wrong one. The way this works for me is
                          1. It kills the perfectionism because I'm actively doing it wrong
                          2. It is challenging (and I love challenges) because you have to change your goals for something that's not your normal aim.
                          3. It kills overwhelm because step number two is

                          ITERATION.

                          Take the wrong and do it slightly less wrong. Just improve something slightly, not today, TOMORROW.

                          Rinse and repeat, eventually you reach hyperfocus. I do this with all my coding.

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                          • maikel@vmst.ioM maikel@vmst.io

                            @PetraPhoenix

                            Do it
                            WRONG

                            You could have a first shitty copy of your assessment today, right ? It's not one that you have to deliver.

                            Then iterate over the wrong one. The way this works for me is
                            1. It kills the perfectionism because I'm actively doing it wrong
                            2. It is challenging (and I love challenges) because you have to change your goals for something that's not your normal aim.
                            3. It kills overwhelm because step number two is

                            ITERATION.

                            Take the wrong and do it slightly less wrong. Just improve something slightly, not today, TOMORROW.

                            Rinse and repeat, eventually you reach hyperfocus. I do this with all my coding.

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                            @maikel

                            Interesting idea. I will give this some thought.

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