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  3. Listening to cybersecurity people freak out over Mythos is so tiring.

Listening to cybersecurity people freak out over Mythos is so tiring.

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  • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM malwaretech@infosec.exchange

    Listening to cybersecurity people freak out over Mythos is so tiring. Like, bro, your local water treatment plant runs Windows XP, your mobile provider's hardware is older than you are, and the protocol that routes internet traffic is secured by everyone just agreeing that hijacking it would be uncool.

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    @malwaretech I think you're right about the hype level but I think there is something to the idea that all of the places which were gambling on obscurity as their primary defense are probably going to find that strategy looks even worse.

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    • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM malwaretech@infosec.exchange

      Listening to cybersecurity people freak out over Mythos is so tiring. Like, bro, your local water treatment plant runs Windows XP, your mobile provider's hardware is older than you are, and the protocol that routes internet traffic is secured by everyone just agreeing that hijacking it would be uncool.

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      @malwaretech The Internet being held together by string and bubble gum is not far from the truth.

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      • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM malwaretech@infosec.exchange

        Listening to cybersecurity people freak out over Mythos is so tiring. Like, bro, your local water treatment plant runs Windows XP, your mobile provider's hardware is older than you are, and the protocol that routes internet traffic is secured by everyone just agreeing that hijacking it would be uncool.

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        @malwaretech so true

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        • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

          @Wouter @malwaretech If only that were true.

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          @drwho @malwaretech
          That is a problem from a cybersecurity standpoint.

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            @drwho @malwaretech
            That is a problem from a cybersecurity standpoint.

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            @Wouter @malwaretech No kidding. The entire community has been lamenting this for two decades now.

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            • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM malwaretech@infosec.exchange

              Listening to cybersecurity people freak out over Mythos is so tiring. Like, bro, your local water treatment plant runs Windows XP, your mobile provider's hardware is older than you are, and the protocol that routes internet traffic is secured by everyone just agreeing that hijacking it would be uncool.

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              @malwaretech

              Fuck Mythos and marketing bullshit, but AI that immensely reduces time-to-exploit is real. Companies are not prepared for it.

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              • sancla@infosec.exchangeS sancla@infosec.exchange

                @eliasp @malwaretech
                Most like yes, but either way focus is getting stronger on supply chains.

                Hopefully, it’ll get companies depending on open source scratching their heads abut this and get them more involved into open source.

                Then again, corporate involvement may not always be the best influence for open source, time will tell and fingers crossed…

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                @sancla @eliasp @malwaretech it will get lots of companies drop some of their open source tools/libraries for proprietary ones, where they can then shift the blame onto some other company when things go south.

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                • mossyfoot@pdx.socialM mossyfoot@pdx.social

                  @malwaretech until recently, all ATMs ran a crazy version of Windows XP and now they run a crazy "IoT" version of Windows 11. Instead, of, say, something like SELinux. Something halfway sane.

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                  @mossyfoot @malwaretech As recently as this week, I used an ATM which had that "please activate Windows" watermark visible in the corner of the screen. (At least the other bank AFAIK uses Linux for its ATMs, replacing the OS/2 they used previously.)

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                  • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM malwaretech@infosec.exchange

                    Listening to cybersecurity people freak out over Mythos is so tiring. Like, bro, your local water treatment plant runs Windows XP, your mobile provider's hardware is older than you are, and the protocol that routes internet traffic is secured by everyone just agreeing that hijacking it would be uncool.

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                    @malwaretech be fair! We secured BGP with lots of crypto, but then left an XSS exploit in the crypto control panel allowing your entire network to get de-routed with one mis-click. https://mxsasha.eu/posts/ripe-ncc-rpki-exploit-chain/

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                    • cesarb@mastodon.socialC cesarb@mastodon.social

                      @mossyfoot @malwaretech As recently as this week, I used an ATM which had that "please activate Windows" watermark visible in the corner of the screen. (At least the other bank AFAIK uses Linux for its ATMs, replacing the OS/2 they used previously.)

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                      @cesarb @malwaretech oh wow. I haven't seen an OS/2 warp machine in a long time.

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                      • darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD darwinwoodka@mastodon.social

                        @nav @malwaretech

                        Indeed, all us fossils live here on Mastodon, it's the only social media we can still stand.

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                        @darwinwoodka @nav @malwaretech

                        Indeed, 'tis true.

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                        • erikbussink@vmst.ioE erikbussink@vmst.io

                          @gsuberland @floe @malwaretech And two days later the hired tiger team launched a full vulnerability scan against it … because … tiger team manager did not communicate. Banking system down for a few days…

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                          @ErikBussink @gsuberland @floe @malwaretech

                          "We're being scanned, Captain."
                          "Shut it down. Shut it all down."
                          🫡 🖖

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                          • iamdannyboling@mstdn.socialI iamdannyboling@mstdn.social

                            @darwinwoodka @nav @malwaretech

                            Indeed, 'tis true.

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                            @IAmDannyBoling @darwinwoodka @nav @malwaretech
                            One of my classmates in high school borrowed his dad's "portable" phone now and then. It looked like this one:

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