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EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET.

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    EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

    kkarhan@infosec.spaceK krutonium@social.treehouse.systemsK raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR xs4me2@mastodon.socialX rhoot@mastodon.gamedev.placeR 12 Replies Last reply
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      EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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      @eff then I expect you to not just speak up but actuvely subvert any #AgeVerification and "#KYC" bullshit - globally!

      • Get 'yer sote onto @torproject / #Tor FFS!
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      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

        EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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        @eff Trust me, you're not alone EFF.

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        • kkarhan@infosec.spaceK kkarhan@infosec.space

          @eff then I expect you to not just speak up but actuvely subvert any #AgeVerification and "#KYC" bullshit - globally!

          • Get 'yer sote onto @torproject / #Tor FFS!
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          @kkarhan @eff @torproject (KYC?)

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            @kkarhan @eff @torproject (KYC?)

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            @krutonium @eff @torproject "Know Your Customer" aka. mandating people to self-d0x to use a service!

            • It spread well beyond the [admittedly false!] pretense of combatting "#MoneyLaundering" and "Terrorism Financing"…
              • *"#AgeVerification"- (which cannot be done without #SelfDoxxing!) is just the latest cancerous growth on that idea!
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              @kkarhan @eff @torproject (KYC?)

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              @krutonium @kkarhan @eff @torproject

              KYC = Know Your Customer
              Quasi eine Klarnamenpflicht. Dies kann kaum datenschutzkonform realisiert werden.

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              • kkarhan@infosec.spaceK kkarhan@infosec.space

                @eff then I expect you to not just speak up but actuvely subvert any #AgeVerification and "#KYC" bullshit - globally!

                • Get 'yer sote onto @torproject / #Tor FFS!
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                @kkarhan @eff @torproject
                Die EFF gibt sich afaik größte Mühe, eben das zu tun.

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                • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                  EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                  @eff
                  It's an attack on the privacy of all adults.

                  It's really about universal surveillance, not about protecting children.

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                  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                    EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                    @eff

                    Because it fits in some stately actors agenda’s…

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                    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                      EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                      @eff my nephew in the small teens has literally been using YouTube to learn programming. While a lot of content on YouTube is of questionable quality, this would actually hinder his ability to learn a useful skill were it to happen in his country.

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                      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                        EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                        @eff Sad that most Indonesian people supported this regulation...

                        While there are some critiqued about the concern of privacy (but this is so minor).

                        Basically, most Indonesian literacy on privacy are so shallow even though they are screaming if there is a huge data breach.

                        I hope better things happen.

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                        • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                          EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                          @eff Having spent time in multiple "unfriendly" locations I appreciate privacy/anonymity *more* than the next guy, but we can't allow our kids or ourselves to be subjected to the type of industrial level manipulation now going on.

                          Likewise we shouldn't allow those industrialized manipulators to exist on the platforms we inhabit in the first place

                          If that wasn't enough, many/most platforms are owned, run and manipulated by nefarious/greedy owners sycophantic to a hostile non-democracy (you know which ones).

                          There is a technical fix, but one with a caveat (i.e. 'becoming of age' may reveal the fact).

                          Every citizen in a democracy could be issued with an anonymous digital token (multiple; one spun off the original for each use/platform/purpose so they can't be cross-referenced) that simply verifies this person qualifies to participate on, um, participating platform.

                          Maybe I'm a little naive and willing to trust my own government — left, right or centre — unlike the majority of humanity these days, but this current uncontrolled lab rat experiment is harming all of us and destroying discourse between verifiable human beings.

                          (I know some under-18s are way more mature than many nominal adults will ever be, but a year or few of additional mental peace has never harmed anyone like exposure to the industrialized manipulation would.)

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                            EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                            @eff

                            a new generation of hackers are about to be launched.

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                              EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                              @eff the responsibility needs to shift back to platform owners.

                              If you are profiting and can't keep a PG/R...

                              Oh now, there's an idea...

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                              • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                                @eff They want what happened in Nepal to happen there.

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                                • demi7en@infosec.exchangeD demi7en@infosec.exchange

                                  @eff Having spent time in multiple "unfriendly" locations I appreciate privacy/anonymity *more* than the next guy, but we can't allow our kids or ourselves to be subjected to the type of industrial level manipulation now going on.

                                  Likewise we shouldn't allow those industrialized manipulators to exist on the platforms we inhabit in the first place

                                  If that wasn't enough, many/most platforms are owned, run and manipulated by nefarious/greedy owners sycophantic to a hostile non-democracy (you know which ones).

                                  There is a technical fix, but one with a caveat (i.e. 'becoming of age' may reveal the fact).

                                  Every citizen in a democracy could be issued with an anonymous digital token (multiple; one spun off the original for each use/platform/purpose so they can't be cross-referenced) that simply verifies this person qualifies to participate on, um, participating platform.

                                  Maybe I'm a little naive and willing to trust my own government — left, right or centre — unlike the majority of humanity these days, but this current uncontrolled lab rat experiment is harming all of us and destroying discourse between verifiable human beings.

                                  (I know some under-18s are way more mature than many nominal adults will ever be, but a year or few of additional mental peace has never harmed anyone like exposure to the industrialized manipulation would.)

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                                  @demi7en the open source Yivi application can provide such functionality.

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                                  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                    EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                                    @eff looks like more people need to know about Tor

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                                    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                      EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/

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                                      @eff serfs should be quiet and work

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