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  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
    mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
    mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
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    #1

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@joepbc/116538636210023270

    Strong disagree. Technology is a convenient scapegoat for wealth concentration, racism, and misogyny, all of which exist separate from tech.

    Eg, Nigerians are still dancing, getting married, and having kids. There is no global birthrate crisis. That's a made up term.

    Black and brown people are still meeting on dating apps and using all the same technology. Young Black people use social media to share videos of themselves dancing. That's a huge part of what social media is.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FiccIGppFOo

    The problem is not technology. Just like the problem is not venture capital.

    The problem is that most of the technology you use, is owned and run by people that are publicly and vocally against democracy. The problem with VC, is that much of the money under management is controlled by people that write papers expressing their explicitly sociopathic and genocidal philosophies.

    The problem is the excuses we make for racist and misogynistic little gremlins.

    The problem is that too much of the world's wealth is tied up in the accounts of people that don't want to have children (which is fine!) and that hate other people's children (not fine).

    Whether or not AI or social media or any other technology exist, these problems persist.

    lebonk@wetdry.worldL mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM tinderness@swiss.socialT lednabm@stranger.socialL 4 Replies Last reply
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    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@joepbc/116538636210023270

      Strong disagree. Technology is a convenient scapegoat for wealth concentration, racism, and misogyny, all of which exist separate from tech.

      Eg, Nigerians are still dancing, getting married, and having kids. There is no global birthrate crisis. That's a made up term.

      Black and brown people are still meeting on dating apps and using all the same technology. Young Black people use social media to share videos of themselves dancing. That's a huge part of what social media is.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FiccIGppFOo

      The problem is not technology. Just like the problem is not venture capital.

      The problem is that most of the technology you use, is owned and run by people that are publicly and vocally against democracy. The problem with VC, is that much of the money under management is controlled by people that write papers expressing their explicitly sociopathic and genocidal philosophies.

      The problem is the excuses we make for racist and misogynistic little gremlins.

      The problem is that too much of the world's wealth is tied up in the accounts of people that don't want to have children (which is fine!) and that hate other people's children (not fine).

      Whether or not AI or social media or any other technology exist, these problems persist.

      lebonk@wetdry.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
      lebonk@wetdry.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
      lebonk@wetdry.world
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      @mekkaokereke
      "declining birthrates" discourse on turtle island is pretty much always just racists' anxiety about demographic shifts as a result of (among other things) the one-drop/recessive definition of whiteness

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      • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@joepbc/116538636210023270

        Strong disagree. Technology is a convenient scapegoat for wealth concentration, racism, and misogyny, all of which exist separate from tech.

        Eg, Nigerians are still dancing, getting married, and having kids. There is no global birthrate crisis. That's a made up term.

        Black and brown people are still meeting on dating apps and using all the same technology. Young Black people use social media to share videos of themselves dancing. That's a huge part of what social media is.

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FiccIGppFOo

        The problem is not technology. Just like the problem is not venture capital.

        The problem is that most of the technology you use, is owned and run by people that are publicly and vocally against democracy. The problem with VC, is that much of the money under management is controlled by people that write papers expressing their explicitly sociopathic and genocidal philosophies.

        The problem is the excuses we make for racist and misogynistic little gremlins.

        The problem is that too much of the world's wealth is tied up in the accounts of people that don't want to have children (which is fine!) and that hate other people's children (not fine).

        Whether or not AI or social media or any other technology exist, these problems persist.

        mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
        mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
        mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
        wrote last edited by
        #3

        Some people think that venture capital is a fundamentally evil business structure. I disagree.

        Thought experiment:
        If you could press a button tomorrow, that would cause 50% of the entire population of the continent of Africa to die within 5 years😮, but would 50X your profits and create dozens of trillion dollar companies, and help humanity become interplanetary 10 years earlier, would you press it?

        If you're on this weird little Mastodon thing reading this, then you are most likely:
        1) A technologist of some sort
        2) Not a genocidal maniac

        So you would of course say no.

        Some of you suspect that I'm going to *imply* that many VCs would say yes. But I'm not going to imply anything. I don't have to. Because many of these VCs have written papers and blog posts under their real names, celebrating the fact that they believe that it's wrong *not* to press that button.🤦🏿‍♂️

        The problem with VC is neither the profit motive, nor the business structure.

        The problem is that the vast majority of the funds that our entire society uses to solve hard problems, are controlled and allocated by people that believe that it is their duty to create new buttons like the one above, and then mash it repeatedly.

        mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF 2 Replies Last reply
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        • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@joepbc/116538636210023270

          Strong disagree. Technology is a convenient scapegoat for wealth concentration, racism, and misogyny, all of which exist separate from tech.

          Eg, Nigerians are still dancing, getting married, and having kids. There is no global birthrate crisis. That's a made up term.

          Black and brown people are still meeting on dating apps and using all the same technology. Young Black people use social media to share videos of themselves dancing. That's a huge part of what social media is.

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FiccIGppFOo

          The problem is not technology. Just like the problem is not venture capital.

          The problem is that most of the technology you use, is owned and run by people that are publicly and vocally against democracy. The problem with VC, is that much of the money under management is controlled by people that write papers expressing their explicitly sociopathic and genocidal philosophies.

          The problem is the excuses we make for racist and misogynistic little gremlins.

          The problem is that too much of the world's wealth is tied up in the accounts of people that don't want to have children (which is fine!) and that hate other people's children (not fine).

          Whether or not AI or social media or any other technology exist, these problems persist.

          tinderness@swiss.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
          tinderness@swiss.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @mekkaokereke A bit too Messias like but basically right. In the end, isn't he explaining what everybody already knows?

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          • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

            Some people think that venture capital is a fundamentally evil business structure. I disagree.

            Thought experiment:
            If you could press a button tomorrow, that would cause 50% of the entire population of the continent of Africa to die within 5 years😮, but would 50X your profits and create dozens of trillion dollar companies, and help humanity become interplanetary 10 years earlier, would you press it?

            If you're on this weird little Mastodon thing reading this, then you are most likely:
            1) A technologist of some sort
            2) Not a genocidal maniac

            So you would of course say no.

            Some of you suspect that I'm going to *imply* that many VCs would say yes. But I'm not going to imply anything. I don't have to. Because many of these VCs have written papers and blog posts under their real names, celebrating the fact that they believe that it's wrong *not* to press that button.🤦🏿‍♂️

            The problem with VC is neither the profit motive, nor the business structure.

            The problem is that the vast majority of the funds that our entire society uses to solve hard problems, are controlled and allocated by people that believe that it is their duty to create new buttons like the one above, and then mash it repeatedly.

            mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
            mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
            mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
            wrote last edited by
            #5

            All I'm saying is that if you believe that your problems are caused by:

            "1) technologists, 2) that are genocidal maniacs, 3) and that allocate most of society's resources"

            then maybe focus on the "genocidal maniac" part, or the "most of society's resources" part, before the technology part.

            burnoutqueen@todon.nlB benroyce@mastodon.socialB 2 Replies Last reply
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            • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

              All I'm saying is that if you believe that your problems are caused by:

              "1) technologists, 2) that are genocidal maniacs, 3) and that allocate most of society's resources"

              then maybe focus on the "genocidal maniac" part, or the "most of society's resources" part, before the technology part.

              burnoutqueen@todon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mekkaokereke the problem is, as always, crapitalism

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              • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                Some people think that venture capital is a fundamentally evil business structure. I disagree.

                Thought experiment:
                If you could press a button tomorrow, that would cause 50% of the entire population of the continent of Africa to die within 5 years😮, but would 50X your profits and create dozens of trillion dollar companies, and help humanity become interplanetary 10 years earlier, would you press it?

                If you're on this weird little Mastodon thing reading this, then you are most likely:
                1) A technologist of some sort
                2) Not a genocidal maniac

                So you would of course say no.

                Some of you suspect that I'm going to *imply* that many VCs would say yes. But I'm not going to imply anything. I don't have to. Because many of these VCs have written papers and blog posts under their real names, celebrating the fact that they believe that it's wrong *not* to press that button.🤦🏿‍♂️

                The problem with VC is neither the profit motive, nor the business structure.

                The problem is that the vast majority of the funds that our entire society uses to solve hard problems, are controlled and allocated by people that believe that it is their duty to create new buttons like the one above, and then mash it repeatedly.

                fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
                fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @mekkaokereke

                There was a Dean Koontz book which had a plot revolving roughly around "Either someone you love or a random stranger has to die tomorrow: you choose which one."
                So I know I'm not as nice a person as I like to pretend.
                I think part of the problem is around the remoteness of consequences from actions. As a for instance, a number of people in the current US administration who view waging war as little more than a video game- the consequences don't impact them personally, therefore they don't matter.

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                • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@joepbc/116538636210023270

                  Strong disagree. Technology is a convenient scapegoat for wealth concentration, racism, and misogyny, all of which exist separate from tech.

                  Eg, Nigerians are still dancing, getting married, and having kids. There is no global birthrate crisis. That's a made up term.

                  Black and brown people are still meeting on dating apps and using all the same technology. Young Black people use social media to share videos of themselves dancing. That's a huge part of what social media is.

                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FiccIGppFOo

                  The problem is not technology. Just like the problem is not venture capital.

                  The problem is that most of the technology you use, is owned and run by people that are publicly and vocally against democracy. The problem with VC, is that much of the money under management is controlled by people that write papers expressing their explicitly sociopathic and genocidal philosophies.

                  The problem is the excuses we make for racist and misogynistic little gremlins.

                  The problem is that too much of the world's wealth is tied up in the accounts of people that don't want to have children (which is fine!) and that hate other people's children (not fine).

                  Whether or not AI or social media or any other technology exist, these problems persist.

                  lednabm@stranger.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  lednabm@stranger.social
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                  #8

                  @mekkaokereke The problem isn't capitalism, socialism, or any other isms people use to label. The social problem behind all of these is religion. There are bad religious people, no doubt. Just look at the Christo-fascist Catholics on SCOTUS. But, there are good religious people who embrace bad things because they submit themselves to authoritarianism & the bankrupt morality Christianity represents. You can't support democracy and freedom when you're excusing dictators, natural or supernatural.

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                  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
                    mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @JizzelEtBass

                    I'm disagreeing with both, and making the explicit point that "tech companies" is an unclear term that hides the real point. It's not tech companies.

                    Because most tech companies don't act like this. It's a tiny fraction of tech companies, that just so happen to overlap with the ones run by people that write papers and blog posts like "👴🏻I hate society, and my own employees, and my own children, and people I don't even know thousands of miles away in Africa, and also, you!🤡"

                    Most tech companies don't do this. Most are relatively normal.

                    Eg Mastodon is a tech company.

                    Every solo Indy game dev is a tech company.

                    Every self-employed software engineer is a tech company.

                    Etc.

                    The distinction is important, because this extends well beyond tech companies.

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                    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                      All I'm saying is that if you believe that your problems are caused by:

                      "1) technologists, 2) that are genocidal maniacs, 3) and that allocate most of society's resources"

                      then maybe focus on the "genocidal maniac" part, or the "most of society's resources" part, before the technology part.

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @mekkaokereke

                      #socialMedia didn't invent #bigotry, but it turbocharged it

                      1. a bigot can be their true selves online with few consequences

                      2. moderation is a cost. say "freeze peach," gut the mod dept, and save $

                      3. "don't feed the trolls"? outrage means clicks and eyeballs, good engagement metrics. for-profit social media is incentivized to push bigotry

                      so fuck social media?

                      nope

                      clean it the fuck up

                      luddite mental gymnastics won't make social media disappear

                      the problem

                      is bigotry

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