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So many levels of wrong here.

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  • wpalant@infosec.exchangeW wpalant@infosec.exchange

    RE: https://mstdn.social/@jschauma/116610268796045193

    So many levels of wrong here. Google’s newest reCAPTCHA “experiment“ tells people to scan a QR code in order to verify that they are human. Yeah, like scanning a QR code displayed by some random website is a good idea in the first place.

    But of course your ability to scan the code isn’t what verifies your human nature. That QR code merely tells you that you need the reCAPTCHA app (on iOS) or newest Google Play services (on Android). In other words, you have to verify that you own a mobile device and are providing data to Google. Which they promise not to share with the website, like that’s what I’m worried about.

    This obviously excludes people who don’t have a smartphone, have a de-Googled smartphone or simply don’t want to feed their data to Google. And it again ties a large chunk of the web to Google services. If reCAPTCHA wasn’t evil before (a questionable statement), it definitely is now.

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    @WPalant yeah. The main issue regarding Google's recent actions is that they are doing everything to become a digitally gated community that everyone needs to do basic things. Once you're in, there's no getting out.

    It's dystopian but it's what they're doing. Google, the everything app.

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    • wpalant@infosec.exchangeW wpalant@infosec.exchange

      RE: https://mstdn.social/@jschauma/116610268796045193

      So many levels of wrong here. Google’s newest reCAPTCHA “experiment“ tells people to scan a QR code in order to verify that they are human. Yeah, like scanning a QR code displayed by some random website is a good idea in the first place.

      But of course your ability to scan the code isn’t what verifies your human nature. That QR code merely tells you that you need the reCAPTCHA app (on iOS) or newest Google Play services (on Android). In other words, you have to verify that you own a mobile device and are providing data to Google. Which they promise not to share with the website, like that’s what I’m worried about.

      This obviously excludes people who don’t have a smartphone, have a de-Googled smartphone or simply don’t want to feed their data to Google. And it again ties a large chunk of the web to Google services. If reCAPTCHA wasn’t evil before (a questionable statement), it definitely is now.

      huntingdon@mstdn.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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      huntingdon@mstdn.social
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      @WPalant

      As I frequently say, fuck Giggle. It's as rapacious as Donald Trump.

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      • wpalant@infosec.exchangeW wpalant@infosec.exchange

        RE: https://mstdn.social/@jschauma/116610268796045193

        So many levels of wrong here. Google’s newest reCAPTCHA “experiment“ tells people to scan a QR code in order to verify that they are human. Yeah, like scanning a QR code displayed by some random website is a good idea in the first place.

        But of course your ability to scan the code isn’t what verifies your human nature. That QR code merely tells you that you need the reCAPTCHA app (on iOS) or newest Google Play services (on Android). In other words, you have to verify that you own a mobile device and are providing data to Google. Which they promise not to share with the website, like that’s what I’m worried about.

        This obviously excludes people who don’t have a smartphone, have a de-Googled smartphone or simply don’t want to feed their data to Google. And it again ties a large chunk of the web to Google services. If reCAPTCHA wasn’t evil before (a questionable statement), it definitely is now.

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        spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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        @WPalant

        Closes tab.

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        • wpalant@infosec.exchangeW wpalant@infosec.exchange

          RE: https://mstdn.social/@jschauma/116610268796045193

          So many levels of wrong here. Google’s newest reCAPTCHA “experiment“ tells people to scan a QR code in order to verify that they are human. Yeah, like scanning a QR code displayed by some random website is a good idea in the first place.

          But of course your ability to scan the code isn’t what verifies your human nature. That QR code merely tells you that you need the reCAPTCHA app (on iOS) or newest Google Play services (on Android). In other words, you have to verify that you own a mobile device and are providing data to Google. Which they promise not to share with the website, like that’s what I’m worried about.

          This obviously excludes people who don’t have a smartphone, have a de-Googled smartphone or simply don’t want to feed their data to Google. And it again ties a large chunk of the web to Google services. If reCAPTCHA wasn’t evil before (a questionable statement), it definitely is now.

          nosenkow@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          nosenkow@mastodon.social
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          @WPalant something like “show we 10 fingers on your hands to prove you are human” 🤦‍♂️
          Hint: I personally have only 9 🤷‍♂️ — ‘cos It’s live 🤷‍♂️

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          • wpalant@infosec.exchangeW wpalant@infosec.exchange

            RE: https://mstdn.social/@jschauma/116610268796045193

            So many levels of wrong here. Google’s newest reCAPTCHA “experiment“ tells people to scan a QR code in order to verify that they are human. Yeah, like scanning a QR code displayed by some random website is a good idea in the first place.

            But of course your ability to scan the code isn’t what verifies your human nature. That QR code merely tells you that you need the reCAPTCHA app (on iOS) or newest Google Play services (on Android). In other words, you have to verify that you own a mobile device and are providing data to Google. Which they promise not to share with the website, like that’s what I’m worried about.

            This obviously excludes people who don’t have a smartphone, have a de-Googled smartphone or simply don’t want to feed their data to Google. And it again ties a large chunk of the web to Google services. If reCAPTCHA wasn’t evil before (a questionable statement), it definitely is now.

            reinald@nrw.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            reinald@nrw.social
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            @WPalant do they display that only on PC/Mac Web-Browsers? Or do you get that thing on mobile devices as well?

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            • wpalant@infosec.exchangeW wpalant@infosec.exchange

              RE: https://mstdn.social/@jschauma/116610268796045193

              So many levels of wrong here. Google’s newest reCAPTCHA “experiment“ tells people to scan a QR code in order to verify that they are human. Yeah, like scanning a QR code displayed by some random website is a good idea in the first place.

              But of course your ability to scan the code isn’t what verifies your human nature. That QR code merely tells you that you need the reCAPTCHA app (on iOS) or newest Google Play services (on Android). In other words, you have to verify that you own a mobile device and are providing data to Google. Which they promise not to share with the website, like that’s what I’m worried about.

              This obviously excludes people who don’t have a smartphone, have a de-Googled smartphone or simply don’t want to feed their data to Google. And it again ties a large chunk of the web to Google services. If reCAPTCHA wasn’t evil before (a questionable statement), it definitely is now.

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              svenja@mstdn.games
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              #13

              @WPalant its also not accessible for me anymore, because I have a hard time scanning QRCodes because I am blind. Wow, now I hate captchas even more.

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              • S spacelifeform@infosec.exchange

                @WPalant

                Closes tab.

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                naich@fosstodon.org
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                @SpaceLifeForm @WPalant
                This is the correct thing to do.

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                • J jaj@mastodon.social

                  @eestileib @dpnash @WPalant Unfortunately that did not work for me in the #Netherlands. I had to buy a dedicated GAFAM phone for the bank or choose not to have a #bank account

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                  #15

                  @jaj @eestileib @dpnash @WPalant ASNBank has a "browser code" system that works well without a smartphone. But I concur, shit is Android-Powered to the max here in NL.

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                  • wpalant@infosec.exchangeW wpalant@infosec.exchange

                    RE: https://mstdn.social/@jschauma/116610268796045193

                    So many levels of wrong here. Google’s newest reCAPTCHA “experiment“ tells people to scan a QR code in order to verify that they are human. Yeah, like scanning a QR code displayed by some random website is a good idea in the first place.

                    But of course your ability to scan the code isn’t what verifies your human nature. That QR code merely tells you that you need the reCAPTCHA app (on iOS) or newest Google Play services (on Android). In other words, you have to verify that you own a mobile device and are providing data to Google. Which they promise not to share with the website, like that’s what I’m worried about.

                    This obviously excludes people who don’t have a smartphone, have a de-Googled smartphone or simply don’t want to feed their data to Google. And it again ties a large chunk of the web to Google services. If reCAPTCHA wasn’t evil before (a questionable statement), it definitely is now.

                    zollak@bonn.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    zollak@bonn.social
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                    #16

                    @WPalant Does this even stop spammers/bots when they have one of the mobile phone farms with racks full of phones?
                    It shouldn't be too hard to just use one of these phones for a quick scan and might even be less effort than solving a captcha?

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                    • wpalant@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wpalant@infosec.exchange
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                      @acs No, you don’t understand correctly. I recommend reading the second paragraph.

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