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Meanwhile, Kentucky is running for worst state in the US...again.

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Meanwhile, Kentucky is running for worst state in the US...again.

    #CW: outdated language / slur

    """
    The ADA sets out a list of “disorders” that are not protected by law, including “gender identity disorders”. Other listed disorders include transexualism, pedophilia, kleptomania, compulsive gambling and voyeurism, amongst others.¹
    ...
    The amendment will also require doctors licensed in Kentucky to “diagnose the disorders [excluded from the ADA] based on the disorder definitions in the DSM III”.²
    """

    ¹ This list shows exactly where they think trans folx sit.

    ² Great, so they're using the horribly outdated version from 1980—yes, 19-fucking-80! (as opposed to the horribly outdated DSM IV from 2013)

    @theleftistlawyer https://mastodon.social/@theleftistlawyer/116320365319020598

    #Trans #LGBTQ #Kentucky #DSM #Legal

    earthshine@masto.hackers.townE xgranade@wandering.shopX ? alice@lgbtqia.spaceA gloatgoat@sunny.gardenG 5 Replies Last reply
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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      Meanwhile, Kentucky is running for worst state in the US...again.

      #CW: outdated language / slur

      """
      The ADA sets out a list of “disorders” that are not protected by law, including “gender identity disorders”. Other listed disorders include transexualism, pedophilia, kleptomania, compulsive gambling and voyeurism, amongst others.¹
      ...
      The amendment will also require doctors licensed in Kentucky to “diagnose the disorders [excluded from the ADA] based on the disorder definitions in the DSM III”.²
      """

      ¹ This list shows exactly where they think trans folx sit.

      ² Great, so they're using the horribly outdated version from 1980—yes, 19-fucking-80! (as opposed to the horribly outdated DSM IV from 2013)

      @theleftistlawyer https://mastodon.social/@theleftistlawyer/116320365319020598

      #Trans #LGBTQ #Kentucky #DSM #Legal

      earthshine@masto.hackers.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @alice @theleftistlawyer OTOH it's a little weird that the pedo-klepto party is the one pushing this shit...

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        Meanwhile, Kentucky is running for worst state in the US...again.

        #CW: outdated language / slur

        """
        The ADA sets out a list of “disorders” that are not protected by law, including “gender identity disorders”. Other listed disorders include transexualism, pedophilia, kleptomania, compulsive gambling and voyeurism, amongst others.¹
        ...
        The amendment will also require doctors licensed in Kentucky to “diagnose the disorders [excluded from the ADA] based on the disorder definitions in the DSM III”.²
        """

        ¹ This list shows exactly where they think trans folx sit.

        ² Great, so they're using the horribly outdated version from 1980—yes, 19-fucking-80! (as opposed to the horribly outdated DSM IV from 2013)

        @theleftistlawyer https://mastodon.social/@theleftistlawyer/116320365319020598

        #Trans #LGBTQ #Kentucky #DSM #Legal

        xgranade@wandering.shopX This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @alice @theleftistlawyer IIUC, PinkNews has started using AI to replace their journalistic staff; it looks like the story is sourced from the Lexington Herald-Leader, which has a bit more detail (though even more by way of antiquated language and outright slurs).

        https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article314993311.html

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        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

          @alice @theleftistlawyer IIUC, PinkNews has started using AI to replace their journalistic staff; it looks like the story is sourced from the Lexington Herald-Leader, which has a bit more detail (though even more by way of antiquated language and outright slurs).

          https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article314993311.html

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          @xgranade @alice @theleftistlawyer oh NO. oh this is terrible. there aren't that many queer news outlets, they are not expendable 😞

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          • earthshine@masto.hackers.townE earthshine@masto.hackers.town

            @alice @theleftistlawyer OTOH it's a little weird that the pedo-klepto party is the one pushing this shit...

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            @earthshine yeah, if you remove the trans stuff and add "delusions of white male persecution" it's basically a list of the Republican party's greatest hits.

            @theleftistlawyer

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              Meanwhile, Kentucky is running for worst state in the US...again.

              #CW: outdated language / slur

              """
              The ADA sets out a list of “disorders” that are not protected by law, including “gender identity disorders”. Other listed disorders include transexualism, pedophilia, kleptomania, compulsive gambling and voyeurism, amongst others.¹
              ...
              The amendment will also require doctors licensed in Kentucky to “diagnose the disorders [excluded from the ADA] based on the disorder definitions in the DSM III”.²
              """

              ¹ This list shows exactly where they think trans folx sit.

              ² Great, so they're using the horribly outdated version from 1980—yes, 19-fucking-80! (as opposed to the horribly outdated DSM IV from 2013)

              @theleftistlawyer https://mastodon.social/@theleftistlawyer/116320365319020598

              #Trans #LGBTQ #Kentucky #DSM #Legal

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              @alice Well that's disgusting.

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              • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                @xgranade @alice @theleftistlawyer oh NO. oh this is terrible. there aren't that many queer news outlets, they are not expendable 😞

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                @ireneista @alice @theleftistlawyer As reported by Harriet Williamson on X (verified via xcancel), reposted via Parker Molloy, it sounds like PinkNews has stated that they aim to become a "reporter-free newsroom."

                X Cancelled | Verifying your request

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                (xcancel.com)

                https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:hf7ezrajxadu7v3tzcyij424/post/3mhjnsn3kp22t

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                • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                  @ireneista @alice @theleftistlawyer As reported by Harriet Williamson on X (verified via xcancel), reposted via Parker Molloy, it sounds like PinkNews has stated that they aim to become a "reporter-free newsroom."

                  X Cancelled | Verifying your request

                  favicon

                  (xcancel.com)

                  https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:hf7ezrajxadu7v3tzcyij424/post/3mhjnsn3kp22t

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                  @ireneista @alice @theleftistlawyer They were already more than a little bit problematic, sadly, with the CEO allegedly caught on audio saying they needed to go the TERF route to keep advertisers (amongst other terrible shit).

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                  Alleged Audio Leaks from PinkNews CEO — Assigned

                  A Twitter account dedicated to sharing the unflattering stories of people who claim to have worked for PinkNews released alleged audio recordings of CEO Benjamin Cohen that are, to say the least, troubling!

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                  Assigned (www.assignedmedia.org)

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                  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                    @ireneista @alice @theleftistlawyer They were already more than a little bit problematic, sadly, with the CEO allegedly caught on audio saying they needed to go the TERF route to keep advertisers (amongst other terrible shit).

                    Link Preview Image
                    Alleged Audio Leaks from PinkNews CEO — Assigned

                    A Twitter account dedicated to sharing the unflattering stories of people who claim to have worked for PinkNews released alleged audio recordings of CEO Benjamin Cohen that are, to say the least, troubling!

                    favicon

                    Assigned (www.assignedmedia.org)

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                    @xgranade @alice @theleftistlawyer hmmmm we found an article about it at https://www.wearequeeraf.com/pinknews-to-move-to-a-reporter-free-newsroom-with-its-journalists-facing-redundancy/ but queerAF is, itself, not an outlet we have prior familiarity with

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                    • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                      @xgranade @alice @theleftistlawyer hmmmm we found an article about it at https://www.wearequeeraf.com/pinknews-to-move-to-a-reporter-free-newsroom-with-its-journalists-facing-redundancy/ but queerAF is, itself, not an outlet we have prior familiarity with

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                      @xgranade @alice @theleftistlawyer we're applying close scrutiny here because intracommunity distrust is a serious matter, and our news sources are an obvious target for disinformation in the same way that ie. Signal is

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                      • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                        @xgranade @alice @theleftistlawyer we're applying close scrutiny here because intracommunity distrust is a serious matter, and our news sources are an obvious target for disinformation in the same way that ie. Signal is

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                        @xgranade @alice @theleftistlawyer we guess we keep all this in mind, watch, and wait 😞

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                        • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                          @xgranade @alice @theleftistlawyer hmmmm we found an article about it at https://www.wearequeeraf.com/pinknews-to-move-to-a-reporter-free-newsroom-with-its-journalists-facing-redundancy/ but queerAF is, itself, not an outlet we have prior familiarity with

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                          @ireneista @alice @theleftistlawyer Yeah, I didn't want to rely on that personally, given i don't know queerAF's reputation. I figured Molloy is a bit less likely than average to share or endorse panic, and took her sharing Williamson's post (or a screenshot thereof that I then manually verified) as an endorsement of the likely veracity?

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                          • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                            @xgranade @alice @theleftistlawyer we're applying close scrutiny here because intracommunity distrust is a serious matter, and our news sources are an obvious target for disinformation in the same way that ie. Signal is

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                            @ireneista Agreed, which is part of why I'm being as careful to caveat my own understanding here. That said, I think there's enough open question that I'm at the point of "always click through the story to see if it's actually what PinkNews says it is," which is a healthy practice even absent specific distrust.

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              Meanwhile, Kentucky is running for worst state in the US...again.

                              #CW: outdated language / slur

                              """
                              The ADA sets out a list of “disorders” that are not protected by law, including “gender identity disorders”. Other listed disorders include transexualism, pedophilia, kleptomania, compulsive gambling and voyeurism, amongst others.¹
                              ...
                              The amendment will also require doctors licensed in Kentucky to “diagnose the disorders [excluded from the ADA] based on the disorder definitions in the DSM III”.²
                              """

                              ¹ This list shows exactly where they think trans folx sit.

                              ² Great, so they're using the horribly outdated version from 1980—yes, 19-fucking-80! (as opposed to the horribly outdated DSM IV from 2013)

                              @theleftistlawyer https://mastodon.social/@theleftistlawyer/116320365319020598

                              #Trans #LGBTQ #Kentucky #DSM #Legal

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                              Interesting opening for malicious compliance:

                              """
                              The bill also would require the Education Professional Standards Board to investigate and respond to all complaints against a certificate holder alleging that the certificate holder exhibits easily identifiable behavioral signs or symptoms characteristic to a listed disorder.

                              The board would be able to compel a medical examination to evaluate whether a certificate holder meets the diagnostic criteria for a listed disorder, and require that the results be provided to the board as a condition of continued certification.
                              """

                              Required to investigate all complaints of teachers exhibiting any traits of a non-protected disorder? In Kentucky you say?

                              Pop quiz? That's impulsivity—an easily identifiable diagnostic trait of Antisocial Personality Disorder!

                              Wearing a cross or talking about prayer? Odd or eccentric beliefs—that sounds like an indicator of Schizotypal Personality Disorder!

                              This bill is fucking stupid.

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                Interesting opening for malicious compliance:

                                """
                                The bill also would require the Education Professional Standards Board to investigate and respond to all complaints against a certificate holder alleging that the certificate holder exhibits easily identifiable behavioral signs or symptoms characteristic to a listed disorder.

                                The board would be able to compel a medical examination to evaluate whether a certificate holder meets the diagnostic criteria for a listed disorder, and require that the results be provided to the board as a condition of continued certification.
                                """

                                Required to investigate all complaints of teachers exhibiting any traits of a non-protected disorder? In Kentucky you say?

                                Pop quiz? That's impulsivity—an easily identifiable diagnostic trait of Antisocial Personality Disorder!

                                Wearing a cross or talking about prayer? Odd or eccentric beliefs—that sounds like an indicator of Schizotypal Personality Disorder!

                                This bill is fucking stupid.

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                                @alice Definitely read that as "wearing crocs" and tbh, that could still count

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  Meanwhile, Kentucky is running for worst state in the US...again.

                                  #CW: outdated language / slur

                                  """
                                  The ADA sets out a list of “disorders” that are not protected by law, including “gender identity disorders”. Other listed disorders include transexualism, pedophilia, kleptomania, compulsive gambling and voyeurism, amongst others.¹
                                  ...
                                  The amendment will also require doctors licensed in Kentucky to “diagnose the disorders [excluded from the ADA] based on the disorder definitions in the DSM III”.²
                                  """

                                  ¹ This list shows exactly where they think trans folx sit.

                                  ² Great, so they're using the horribly outdated version from 1980—yes, 19-fucking-80! (as opposed to the horribly outdated DSM IV from 2013)

                                  @theleftistlawyer https://mastodon.social/@theleftistlawyer/116320365319020598

                                  #Trans #LGBTQ #Kentucky #DSM #Legal

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                                  #16

                                  @alice update & more context for the bill from Queer Kentucky:
                                  https://queerkentucky.com/kentucky-trans-teachers-hb-759-fact-check/

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                                  • gloatgoat@sunny.gardenG gloatgoat@sunny.garden

                                    @alice update & more context for the bill from Queer Kentucky:
                                    https://queerkentucky.com/kentucky-trans-teachers-hb-759-fact-check/

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                                    @gloatgoat that's better news, but that senator should be removed for proposing it (and then trying to sneak it in again) anyway—he's obviously unfit to be a senator by his own criteria (see DSM III: 319.0(x))¹.

                                    ¹ do yourself a favor and don't look that up; it's horrible and horribly outdated—like the senator.

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