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  3. Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server.

Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server.

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  • fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
    fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
    fosstodon@fosstodon.org
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    #1

    Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.

    bumble@ibe.socialB dalias@hachyderm.ioD danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.hostD moogstad@tldr.nettime.orgM dwarf@borg.socialD 15 Replies Last reply
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    • fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF fosstodon@fosstodon.org

      Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.

      bumble@ibe.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
      bumble@ibe.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
      bumble@ibe.social
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      #2

      @fosstodon@fosstodon.org We are considering it too

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      • bumble@ibe.socialB bumble@ibe.social

        @fosstodon@fosstodon.org We are considering it too

        thomas@metalhead.clubT This user is from outside of this forum
        thomas@metalhead.clubT This user is from outside of this forum
        thomas@metalhead.club
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        @bumble @fosstodon we too!

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        • fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF fosstodon@fosstodon.org

          Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.

          dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
          dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
          dalias@hachyderm.io
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          #4

          @fosstodon 72 hours is pretty short notice. Isn't standard practice for responsible defederation in the range of a few weeks notice at least?

          iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI sheogorath@microblog.shivering-isles.comS 2 Replies Last reply
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          • fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF fosstodon@fosstodon.org

            Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.

            danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.hostD This user is from outside of this forum
            danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.hostD This user is from outside of this forum
            danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.host
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            #5

            @fosstodon What happened there? Is it problematic content?

            introvertcatto@app.wafrn.netI dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD quinn9282@mas.toQ soaproot@sfba.socialS 4 Replies Last reply
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            • fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF fosstodon@fosstodon.org

              Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.

              moogstad@tldr.nettime.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
              moogstad@tldr.nettime.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
              moogstad@tldr.nettime.org
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              #6

              @fosstodon pot calling kettle black

              we still remember when your modteam has nazis lmao

              iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI trevdev@fosstodon.orgT 2 Replies Last reply
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              • danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.hostD danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.host

                @fosstodon What happened there? Is it problematic content?

                introvertcatto@app.wafrn.netI This user is from outside of this forum
                introvertcatto@app.wafrn.netI This user is from outside of this forum
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                @danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.host @fosstodon@fosstodon.org

                If I understood correctly it is abandoned server, probably not updated and has spams due to having open registration.

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                • fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF fosstodon@fosstodon.org

                  Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.

                  dwarf@borg.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dwarf@borg.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @fosstodon@fosstodon.org cc @Sujiyan@mstdn.jp

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                  • danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.hostD danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.host

                    @fosstodon What happened there? Is it problematic content?

                    dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @danieruotakuboy @fosstodon there hasn't been any moderation there for most of a year, and it has open registration, so spammers are signing up there and operating without getting shut down.

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                    • danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.hostD danieruotakuboy@vzla.masto.host

                      @fosstodon What happened there? Is it problematic content?

                      quinn9282@mas.toQ This user is from outside of this forum
                      quinn9282@mas.toQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @danieruotakuboy @fosstodon The server is likely abandoned from what it seems. The main admin on there hasn't posted anything for over 3 years, and it's using an outdated version of the Mastodon client that's been out of support since last April. Especially in the last year or so, there's been persistent issues with spammers and inappropriate content springing up on there (due to still having open registrations) that's not being actively removed, even after multiple reports.

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                      • fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF fosstodon@fosstodon.org

                        Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.

                        stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                        stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                        stux@mstdn.social
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                        @fosstodon I was also thinking about it.. For now we contained it but perhaps need further action

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                        • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                          @fosstodon 72 hours is pretty short notice. Isn't standard practice for responsible defederation in the range of a few weeks notice at least?

                          iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
                          iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @dalias @fosstodon defederation is an act of self-defense.

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                          • moogstad@tldr.nettime.orgM moogstad@tldr.nettime.org

                            @fosstodon pot calling kettle black

                            we still remember when your modteam has nazis lmao

                            iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
                            iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @moogstad @fosstodon you should totally defederate from them.

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                            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                              @fosstodon I was also thinking about it.. For now we contained it but perhaps need further action

                              stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                              stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @fosstodon Btw, pawoo.net & mstdn.jp are from the same company that also owns mastodon.cloud 😉

                              Both run v4.1.18 and v4.1.25

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                              • iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI iwillyeah@mastodon.ie

                                @dalias @fosstodon defederation is an act of self-defense.

                                dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @Iwillyeah @fosstodon We all understand that. However since it severs your users' relationships, standard practice for a responsible instance is that you give sufficient notice that people can move if they don't want their relationships severed.

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                                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                  @Iwillyeah @fosstodon We all understand that. However since it severs your users' relationships, standard practice for a responsible instance is that you give sufficient notice that people can move if they don't want their relationships severed.

                                  iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @dalias @fosstodon i suppose it depends on the level of harm federation is causing.

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                                  • fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF fosstodon@fosstodon.org

                                    Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.

                                    stefan_s_from_h@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    stefan_s_from_h@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    stefan_s_from_h@mastodon.social
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                                    @fosstodon #Slashdot has their Mastodon account there.

                                    Are they sleeping?

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                                    • iwillyeah@mastodon.ieI iwillyeah@mastodon.ie

                                      @dalias @fosstodon i suppose it depends on the level of harm federation is causing.

                                      dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Iwillyeah @fosstodon Yes, I'd say it depends on the level of harm and whether there are any known or potential legitimate relationships with the instance.

                                      If it's just a nazi/csam/whatever instance, immediate defederation is of course fine.

                                      But if it's an abandoned instance your users have actual friends on, ideally you'd give a full notice period. This would of course work better if Mastodon had better controls for low-trust instances, like a stronger version of limiting that refuses to even federate anything from the instance unless it's from an account that has a relationship with one of your users.

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                                      • fosstodon@fosstodon.orgF fosstodon@fosstodon.org

                                        Hi all, we've made the decision to defederate with mastodon.cloud, due to the unfortunate neglect of the server. Mastodon.cloud was already limited by Fosstodon. We will complete the defederation in 72 hours. Please reach out to accounts you still follow on mastodon.cloud and encourage them to move, while you can still contact them as the defederation will break your follow.

                                        mellifluousbox@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        mellifluousbox@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        mellifluousbox@mastodon.social
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                                        @fosstodon I'm trying to coordinate with their admin to find a solution swiftly.

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                                        • moogstad@tldr.nettime.orgM moogstad@tldr.nettime.org

                                          @fosstodon pot calling kettle black

                                          we still remember when your modteam has nazis lmao

                                          trevdev@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
                                          trevdev@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
                                          trevdev@fosstodon.org
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                                          #20

                                          @moogstad @fosstodon a substantial remediation effort was done including an entirely new moderation team.

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