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  • irisfreundin@troet.cafeI irisfreundin@troet.cafe

    @meganmariehart

    Fedi.Tips (@FediTips@social.growyourown.services)

    Had several questions about how the main "Home" feed works on Mastodon. Here's what it shows: 1. All posts from all accounts you follow in chronological order, newest at top 2. All posts shared by accounts or groups you follow 3. Posts that use hashtags you follow in chronological order, newest at top ...and that's it, there's nothing else on your Home feed. It doesn't push anything else at you, it doesn't hide anything from you unless you ask it to. No algorithms, no ads. #FediTips #Mastodon

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    #93

    @Irisfreundin Thank you, this might be helpful in addition. By the way, I got this message when I tried to view your initially hidden post: “Notifications from this account have been filtered because the account or its server has been limited by a moderator.” I thought you might want to know.

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    • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

      I feel like I get more meaningful interaction (and perhaps even ticket sales!) from a Mastodon post about an upcoming show than from posts on other social media platforms. But a “feeling” dosen’t help when trying to convince people to join. Or to get active. My current theater @staatstheaterdarmstadt is on here since 2022 – zero posts! I would like them to get active or even set up their own instance. I think every theater should have its own instance! It can’t be more work than FB and IG.
      5/7

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      #94

      @meganmariehart when you say "theater", I think "backstage" and 'images", and then maybe pixelfed instance in the end, not mastodon?

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      • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

        BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

        Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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        #95

        @meganmariehart seeing is overrated, how many people can feel a post without #

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        • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

          BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

          Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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          #96

          @meganmariehart
          I often use em. But sometimes I don't often because I can't think of a suitable one for the post being composed.

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          • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

            BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

            Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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            #97
            @meganmariehart the underlying protocol of Fediverse is not dependent on any tags. strictly saying it does not have tags at all. it works like email and delivery depends on user addresses ;like username+servername. if a connected user reposts or comments some post in Fediverse, there's a chance that his followers get a copy if the original post too, so posts spread across trhe different servers on Fediverse.
            some platforms (like Mastodon) allow subscription to tags and some filtering on tags. others do not offer that features. but tags often may be used in seatch engines on servers and people may sort out messages with tags for easier search.
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            • netraven@hear-me.socialN netraven@hear-me.social

              @meganmariehart I dislike hashtags, personally.

              I preferred forums.

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              #98

              @Netraven @meganmariehart while I prefer forum too, I love hashtags as both a way to cross post and to filter or reject content.

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              • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                #99

                @meganmariehart can’t find the thread 🤷‍♂️

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                • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                  BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                  Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                  #100

                  @meganmariehart I'm not sure what this is asking.
                  Am I seeing *this* post that I am replying to without hashtags? Yes.

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    @meganmariehart

                    Maybe I'm very strange but my metric for a post "doing well" is replies not likes or boosts.

                    A good post spawns a million threads and subthreads.

                    However, I'm on social media to ... socialize (crazy right?)

                    People who view social media as a publicity tool don't reply to posts, they don't even read their own replies. It's like they aren't even here.

                    Sad that on places like X/twitter replies were seen as a negative: a sign that people were angry at you. Dysfunctional.

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                    #101

                    @futurebird @meganmariehart

                    I, too, like replies more than anything else. Though I often find I have nothing productive, useful, or fun to say. So the favorite button is just "i liked that" and the boost is "my friends will like it too".

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                    • kimsj@mastodon.socialK kimsj@mastodon.social

                      @meganmariehart
                      I think about “engagement” differently on Mastodon. Before the Elon-gation of Twitter I had more than 12k5 followers there (I left at that point!) Here I have fewer than a quarter of that number, but I feel far more engaged. People scrolling past one’s Tweets without even glancing at them counted as being ‘seen’ — a meaningless statistic!

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                      #102

                      @KimSJ I feel the same way about engagement statistics, they’re useless to me! Mastodon is great and fun without them. However, I was thinking that maybe for someone who hasn’t made the jump yet, some numbers could be an incentive, just because they are so used to them.

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                      • sarble@mefi.socialS sarble@mefi.social

                        @futurebird @meganmariehart 100%, getting many likes is in some sense satisfying, but one engaged reply is gratifying.

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                        #103

                        @sarble @futurebird

                        Great way to put it! And I agree with both of you. Obviously it's a personal preference, but a like/favorite/boost can mean anything.

                        I'd rather know:

                        Did the person really like this? How much? What did they not like? How can I improve?

                        @meganmariehart

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                        • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                          @metalbrawler I wanted to test the potential reach of a post without hashtags, basically just for the sake of discussion. My home theater has a Mastodon account since 2022 but never posted anything! Perhaps I can convince them to get active if I can show them a posts potential, and maybe other theaters and artists will join. Fingers crossed!🤞
                          Thank you!

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                          #104

                          @metalbrawler @meganmariehart they should post their program tagging with city name, theater and other relevant tags

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                          • eowyn@pouet.chapril.orgE eowyn@pouet.chapril.org

                            @metalbrawler @meganmariehart they should post their program tagging with city name, theater and other relevant tags

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                            #105

                            @metalbrawler @meganmariehart maybe mirror RSS of their website

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                            • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                              @futurebird Now, that’s an interesting perspective I hadn’t considered! As a performer, my main use of Mastodon besides playing games is to post “Look at what I will be doing“ and “Look at what I did” 😂
                              … and “Look at my cat,” of course.

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                              @meganmariehart @futurebird 🤣 🙂

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                              • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

                                Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

                                7/7

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                                #107

                                @meganmariehart gamification is indeed a huge part of how the social media usage feedback loop works. LinkedIn and Reddit tell me not just how many people interacted with a contribution, but also how many people saw it. I often find those numbers more disheartening than encouraging (500 people saw a post, 0 commented and 10 responded with an emoji reaction?), but to each their own, it could be a useful feature for people that want to know the reach of their information.

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                                • stevejb@beige.partyS stevejb@beige.party

                                  @meganmariehart I love what your end game here is; getting theaters involved in the Fediverse. I suspect that the metrics you're asking about are available to those running an instance. Otherwise, how would "Trending" be established. I think you need to talk to someone running their own instance. I think a good place to start would be https://fedi.tips/

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                                  #108

                                  @SteveJB Thank you, I bookmarked it! Another aspect was just mentioned to me offline: “metrics” might not be as important as “optics” – since German theaters are publicly funded and there are more and more elected officials here, being visible to them might end up being beneficial!

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                                  • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                    (Nobody actually asked why, but I imagine someone must have thought it.) Curiosity is one reason, the other is a recent offline discussion about whether we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements. It’s possible that brands and “influencer”-type people aren’t getting the kick they’re used to from the Fediverse because there are no metrics showing how many people have seen a post. Perhaps it’s different with your own instance – I don’t know!
                                    2/7

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                                    #109

                                    @meganmariehart
                                    Influencers live on metrics.
                                    They require numbers just to exist
                                    Mastodon doesnt rate big numbers for influencing.
                                    Probably because people dont fall for that bullshit here.

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      @meganmariehart

                                      Maybe I'm very strange but my metric for a post "doing well" is replies not likes or boosts.

                                      A good post spawns a million threads and subthreads.

                                      However, I'm on social media to ... socialize (crazy right?)

                                      People who view social media as a publicity tool don't reply to posts, they don't even read their own replies. It's like they aren't even here.

                                      Sad that on places like X/twitter replies were seen as a negative: a sign that people were angry at you. Dysfunctional.

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                                      #110

                                      @futurebird @meganmariehart

                                      "Maybe I'm very strange but my metric for a post "doing well" is replies ..."

                                      Me too.
                                      Some if this is valuing dialogue.

                                      And at a slightly different angle I'm getting interested in "What we know" as in "we the folk here and now". So "what is our common knowledge or combined knowledge?".

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                                      • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

                                        @Sevapopov @meganmariehart I use hashtags because I and others follow them to find specific content. Some people block things like the name of the president to avoid seeing it. They are my favorite tool.

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                                        @farbel @Sevapopov @meganmariehart you may already be aware, but hashtags are the primary vehicle for searching on Fedi, thus, the primary mechanism for broadcasting topical content.

                                        They also are "the algorithm" - there's nothing finding toots with engagement or funding and putting them in front of your eyes. Hashtags are it... And I honestly think that's a good thing, though I'd like better tools for consuming them.

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                                        • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                          BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                          Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                                          #112

                                          @meganmariehart TL; DR what?

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