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The "smarter" all the devices get, the smarter I feel for not buying them.

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    The "smarter" all the devices get, the smarter I feel for not buying them.

    manu@freiburg.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @alice

    One day, you won't be able to pay for your groceries because you don't have a smartphone that uses AI to solve the captchas at the checkout terminal and the AI teller won't accept your wrinkly cash.

    And then you'll walk out of the store with your stolen groceries but the door won't open until someone else walks out because 'smart'.

    And then you won't have paid for your food and nobody will be after you because they'd try to punish you by locking you out of their discount program instead.

    And then you'll be a thief and you'll feel really bad because of that only because you didn't buy smart devices.

    At least that's what I expect to happen to me ๐Ÿ˜… And after feeling bad there's free food.

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    • roknrol@beige.partyR roknrol@beige.party

      @alice When I was packing up all of my shit to move to France, I took half of our televisions (LCD, nothing special, but large and *dumb*).

      My wife laughed and suggested that I was being silly by not just buying new televisions when I made it across the pond.

      The last time I was in her house I heard so many advertisements, so many "AI Assistants" listening, and she (a supposed liberal) has a fucking Ring doorbell.

      I'm happy with my dumb TVs, my dumb DVD players, my dumb media server, my dumb record player, and my dumb doorbell.

      Before I buy anything "smart" I will first find out how the "smart" can be disabled (the fridge we bought was 'wifi capable', so I opened the back and yanked the wifi card - that trick probably won't work anymore).

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      @roknrol @alice My TV is a 2006 model, bought in 2018 from an old Kurdish man in the banlieues of Stockholm. It has one HDMI port, some analogue ports that look like dogshit with consoles, a VGA port(!) and an analogue tuner that no longer has a use. It (coupled with a HDMI switch) does the job.

      Iโ€™m told that denying internet access to modern โ€œsmart TVsโ€ is not an option, as they will nag you obstructively until you plug them in, as theyโ€™re sold at a loss recouped from ad/tracker revenue.

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      • roknrol@beige.partyR roknrol@beige.party

        @alice When I was packing up all of my shit to move to France, I took half of our televisions (LCD, nothing special, but large and *dumb*).

        My wife laughed and suggested that I was being silly by not just buying new televisions when I made it across the pond.

        The last time I was in her house I heard so many advertisements, so many "AI Assistants" listening, and she (a supposed liberal) has a fucking Ring doorbell.

        I'm happy with my dumb TVs, my dumb DVD players, my dumb media server, my dumb record player, and my dumb doorbell.

        Before I buy anything "smart" I will first find out how the "smart" can be disabled (the fridge we bought was 'wifi capable', so I opened the back and yanked the wifi card - that trick probably won't work anymore).

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        @roknrol @alice my uncle was a steward. One time, I got asked to do tech support on one of their laptop. That invovlved spending the afternoon at their place alone while some script tried to recover deleted files from hard-drive. They had a DVD player and a lot of DVD so I play one. Then I start a second. Then it hit me. There was no ads before the main menu. Every DVD I had knew before had 15 minutes of ads for stufd not sold anymore.
        Pretty sure they had a "smart" player, as in "skip the ads"

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        • acb@mastodon.socialA acb@mastodon.social

          @roknrol @alice My TV is a 2006 model, bought in 2018 from an old Kurdish man in the banlieues of Stockholm. It has one HDMI port, some analogue ports that look like dogshit with consoles, a VGA port(!) and an analogue tuner that no longer has a use. It (coupled with a HDMI switch) does the job.

          Iโ€™m told that denying internet access to modern โ€œsmart TVsโ€ is not an option, as they will nag you obstructively until you plug them in, as theyโ€™re sold at a loss recouped from ad/tracker revenue.

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          @acb That is what I heard as well, and every story gives me a small reason for a sigh of relief.

          @alice

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          • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @roknrol @alice my uncle was a steward. One time, I got asked to do tech support on one of their laptop. That invovlved spending the afternoon at their place alone while some script tried to recover deleted files from hard-drive. They had a DVD player and a lot of DVD so I play one. Then I start a second. Then it hit me. There was no ads before the main menu. Every DVD I had knew before had 15 minutes of ads for stufd not sold anymore.
            Pretty sure they had a "smart" player, as in "skip the ads"

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            @gkrnours Almost all of my DVDs have been ripped from original disks with all of the preview crap and advertisements cut.

            The disks will soon start failing though, so I'll need to dedicate some time to re-ripping them lest I lose my catalog lol

            @alice

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              The "smarter" all the devices get, the smarter I feel for not buying them.

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              @alice my fridge and my television would like you to know there is nothing to worry about. My toaster started giggling, but Iโ€™m not sure why.

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                The "smarter" all the devices get, the smarter I feel for not buying them.

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                @alice ๐Ÿ’ฏ

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  The "smarter" all the devices get, the smarter I feel for not buying them.

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                  @alice

                  There are so very many modern "conveniences" I feel deeply grateful to not have.

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                  • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @roknrol @alice my uncle was a steward. One time, I got asked to do tech support on one of their laptop. That invovlved spending the afternoon at their place alone while some script tried to recover deleted files from hard-drive. They had a DVD player and a lot of DVD so I play one. Then I start a second. Then it hit me. There was no ads before the main menu. Every DVD I had knew before had 15 minutes of ads for stufd not sold anymore.
                    Pretty sure they had a "smart" player, as in "skip the ads"

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                    @gkrnours @roknrol @alice

                    We have several boxes of oldish DVDs and none have a commercial...I don't remember seeing ads on DVDs.

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                    • snowyca@social.vivaldi.netS snowyca@social.vivaldi.net

                      @gkrnours @roknrol @alice

                      We have several boxes of oldish DVDs and none have a commercial...I don't remember seeing ads on DVDs.

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                      @SnowyCA @roknrol @alice it might be a region thing but for exemple my copy if toy story start with an ads for a restored edition of peter pan and 1. I don't care, I want to see toy story 2. It was 15 years ago, you stopped selling restores edition of peter pan

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                      • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @SnowyCA @roknrol @alice it might be a region thing but for exemple my copy if toy story start with an ads for a restored edition of peter pan and 1. I don't care, I want to see toy story 2. It was 15 years ago, you stopped selling restores edition of peter pan

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                        @gkrnours @roknrol @alice

                        "regional"
                        I was wondering the same.

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                        • roknrol@beige.partyR roknrol@beige.party

                          @acb That is what I heard as well, and every story gives me a small reason for a sigh of relief.

                          @alice

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                          @roknrol @acb @alice

                          these days you would have to buy prison/hotel/hospital mode TV or industrial/commercial display and feed it with your own HDMI device (might take a bit of searching but its probably possible to get these cheaply from businesses which are closing down)

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                          • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                            @roknrol @acb @alice

                            these days you would have to buy prison/hotel/hospital mode TV or industrial/commercial display and feed it with your own HDMI device (might take a bit of searching but its probably possible to get these cheaply from businesses which are closing down)

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                            @vfrmedia @roknrol @acb @alice
                            Gaming monitor with HDMI input.

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                            • roknrol@beige.partyR roknrol@beige.party

                              @alice When I was packing up all of my shit to move to France, I took half of our televisions (LCD, nothing special, but large and *dumb*).

                              My wife laughed and suggested that I was being silly by not just buying new televisions when I made it across the pond.

                              The last time I was in her house I heard so many advertisements, so many "AI Assistants" listening, and she (a supposed liberal) has a fucking Ring doorbell.

                              I'm happy with my dumb TVs, my dumb DVD players, my dumb media server, my dumb record player, and my dumb doorbell.

                              Before I buy anything "smart" I will first find out how the "smart" can be disabled (the fridge we bought was 'wifi capable', so I opened the back and yanked the wifi card - that trick probably won't work anymore).

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                              @roknrol @alice I knew when my induction hob wanted to connect to my wifi, that things got out of hand.

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                              • roknrol@beige.partyR roknrol@beige.party

                                @alice When I was packing up all of my shit to move to France, I took half of our televisions (LCD, nothing special, but large and *dumb*).

                                My wife laughed and suggested that I was being silly by not just buying new televisions when I made it across the pond.

                                The last time I was in her house I heard so many advertisements, so many "AI Assistants" listening, and she (a supposed liberal) has a fucking Ring doorbell.

                                I'm happy with my dumb TVs, my dumb DVD players, my dumb media server, my dumb record player, and my dumb doorbell.

                                Before I buy anything "smart" I will first find out how the "smart" can be disabled (the fridge we bought was 'wifi capable', so I opened the back and yanked the wifi card - that trick probably won't work anymore).

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                                @roknrol @alice On Reddit this morning I saw a step-by-step guide to removing the modem in a carโ€ฆ

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  The "smarter" all the devices get, the smarter I feel for not buying them.

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                                  @alice The shopping challenge these days is finding dumb devices

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                                  • roknrol@beige.partyR roknrol@beige.party

                                    @alice When I was packing up all of my shit to move to France, I took half of our televisions (LCD, nothing special, but large and *dumb*).

                                    My wife laughed and suggested that I was being silly by not just buying new televisions when I made it across the pond.

                                    The last time I was in her house I heard so many advertisements, so many "AI Assistants" listening, and she (a supposed liberal) has a fucking Ring doorbell.

                                    I'm happy with my dumb TVs, my dumb DVD players, my dumb media server, my dumb record player, and my dumb doorbell.

                                    Before I buy anything "smart" I will first find out how the "smart" can be disabled (the fridge we bought was 'wifi capable', so I opened the back and yanked the wifi card - that trick probably won't work anymore).

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                                    @roknrol @alice check "

                                    "digital signage displays", they might fit your needs better. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      The "smarter" all the devices get, the smarter I feel for not buying them.

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                                      @alice The funny thing is that you still don't own the devices even though you paid money for it. You just have bought a license to use them because if the company decides to discontinue the backend service, the devices are becoming electronic waste and you can do nothing about it. And your money is gone.

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                                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                        The "smarter" all the devices get, the smarter I feel for not buying them.

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                                        @alice Eventually someone who has an impact in your life will buy the devices. Like your insurance company

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          The "smarter" all the devices get, the smarter I feel for not buying them.

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                                          @alice
                                          Marketing lingo, who doesn't hate it?

                                          Who are these people that have no problem whatsoever lying to us?

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