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Whoa, that escalated quickly.

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  • timo21@mastodon.sdf.orgT timo21@mastodon.sdf.org

    @briankrebs wow. I still have my last three routers in my closet of old technology. Who cares about speed if they are uncomprimised. I probably don't have have my last dial-up though. Dialup and shortwave may be useful in the future though.

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    @timo21 @briankrebs POTS is gone and would require all that old infrastructure to work. Think #915MHz https://meshtastic.org/

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

      "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

      WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

      "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

      "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

      "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

      Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

      https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

      FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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      #89

      @briankrebs It's almost as if they don't know that a "router" is just a computer running routing software. Any PC is a "router" if it's running OPNSense, Mikrotik RouterOS or something like that.

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      • fraca7@social.linux.pizzaF fraca7@social.linux.pizza

        @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs Looks like one of those — sorry no alt text since your own post is basically it

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        @fraca7 Or this one?

        @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs

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        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

          Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

          "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

          WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

          "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

          "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

          "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

          Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

          https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

          FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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          @briankrebs What a bunch of fucking idiots.

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          • piepants@famichiki.jpP piepants@famichiki.jp

            @fraca7 Or this one?

            @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs

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            @piepants @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs Perfection

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            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

              Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

              "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

              WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

              "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

              "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

              "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

              Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

              https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

              FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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              @briankrebs whose going to tell them that Linksys is made in Taiwan and China?

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              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                @briankrebs
                Who and what are the "Executive Branch Agencies" that determined these routers are a risk to national security?

                Is that Trump shitting on the toilet at 3am and thinking about how bad China is?

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                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                  Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                  "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                  WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                  "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                  "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                  "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                  Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                  https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                  FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                  @briankrebs Waiting for the moment when foreign produced ideas are a treat to national security, the natural escalation for any absolute regime.

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                  • inchulk@mastodon.greenI inchulk@mastodon.green

                    @briankrebs There is a logic to this. If a foreign country might cause their nation's soft/hardware to be used in a way that is nationalistic - then a ban could be justified. So by this logic, the EU, Canada & Southern hemisphere countries should immediately ban all new Microsoft, Meta, Apple and Amazon products.

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                    #96

                    @IncHulk I mean, honestly we should ALL be doing that anyway.

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                    • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

                      @briankrebs What a bunch of fucking idiots.

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                      @drewtowler @briankrebs This is my favorite response so far.

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                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                        Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                        "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                        WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                        "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                        "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                        "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                        Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                        https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                        FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                        @briankrebs

                        This stinks of a precursor to something extremely sinister.

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                        • velobusdriver@techhub.socialV velobusdriver@techhub.social

                          @briankrebs So... Gear from Ubiquiti Networks is going to be in short supply for a while, I suspect...

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                          @VeloBusDriver @briankrebs

                          From what I saw quoted -- equipment already fcc certified is safe thankfully.

                          (Unless they clarify in a different way.)

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                          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                            Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                            "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                            WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                            "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                            "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                            "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                            Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                            https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                            FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                            @briankrebs

                            2027 FOR SALE AD:

                            Netgear ORBI 750 series, 3 node WiFi Mesh Router. In perfect condition. Was purchased prior to March 23rd, 2026. Have receipts.

                            $10,000 OBO

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                            • norombasic@mastodon.worldN norombasic@mastodon.world

                              @briankrebs

                              2027 FOR SALE AD:

                              Netgear ORBI 750 series, 3 node WiFi Mesh Router. In perfect condition. Was purchased prior to March 23rd, 2026. Have receipts.

                              $10,000 OBO

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                              @NoRomBasic @briankrebs good lord just run Linux/bsd and offload the asic stuff to a dpu or mellanox card 🙂
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                              • softspeak@defcon.socialS softspeak@defcon.social

                                @briankrebs

                                But everything in made in China 😭

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                                @softspeak @briankrebs Shhhhh.... Don't tell them anything.

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                                • rapsneezy@mastodon.socialR rapsneezy@mastodon.social

                                  @briankrebs

                                  Some patriotic buying options for Americans:

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                                  Top 10 Router Companies in Israel 2025 - ESSFeed

                                  Introduction:

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                                  ESSFeed (essfeed.com)

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                                  @rapsneezy @briankrebs Pouring salt onto the wound. 🧂

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                                  • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

                                    @briankrebs next stop "you will use only our approved router products with built in spying"

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                                    @etchedpixels @briankrebs Time to install DDWRT.

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                                    • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                                      @briankrebs

                                      This stinks of a precursor to something extremely sinister.

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                                      @IT_SME @briankrebs
                                      they are definitely going after VPNs soon

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                                      • raven667@hachyderm.ioR raven667@hachyderm.io

                                        @SeanPLynch for some reason its only capable of 45Mbit though...

                                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @rpardee @briankrebs

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                                        @raven667 @SeanPLynch @GhostOnTheHalfShell @rpardee @briankrebs Big OOF

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                                        • dark_stang@kind.socialD dark_stang@kind.social

                                          @briankrebs I don't think there is a single router being manufactured in the US? Doesn't this effectively mean no routers for US Internet?

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                                          @dark_stang @briankrebs *Insert Sad Trombone*

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