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Whoa, that escalated quickly.

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  • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

    @EndlessMason @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs Well, Fairchild and US Robotics aren't suddenly going to fall through a temporal wormhole to make new gear.

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    #64

    @linuxandyarn @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs
    Maybe somebody will buy the trademarks and import the chassis/boards and slap stickers on 'em?

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

      "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

      WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

      "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

      "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

      "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

      Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

      https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

      FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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      wrote last edited by
      #65

      @briankrebs they’ll probably just do the final assembly somewhere in the US then

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      • linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL linuxandyarn@hachyderm.io

        @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs There was a meme a while back that I can't find an image if but the alt text would be

        A cable plugged into a Cisco router to protect from Russian spyware goes into a Mikrotik router to protect from Chinese spyware and a cable goes from the Mikrotik to a D-Link router to protect from American spyware.

        (There may have been a fortigate in the original image, but that would just be too funny and tragic.)

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        @linuxandyarn @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs Looks like one of those — sorry no alt text since your own post is basically it

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        • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

          @SeanPLynch @briankrebs

          Yeah, I keep glazing over the extortion angle in all this. You gotta love those public private partnerships.

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          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SeanPLynch @briankrebs My first thought was "did Don Jr just incorporate 'Trump Routers'?"

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          • rpardee@hachyderm.ioR rpardee@hachyderm.io

            @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SeanPLynch @briankrebs My first thought was "did Don Jr just incorporate 'Trump Routers'?"

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            @rpardee @SeanPLynch @briankrebs

            STOP. 😅 (oh my God it just gets worse and worse, doesn’t it?)

            Yeah, I can imagine some future Trump branded router. You take it out of its box and it’s obviously been opened in the packaging is kind of been tampered with and then there’s like white dust and greasy fingerprints all over it.

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            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

              Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

              "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

              WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

              "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

              "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

              "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

              Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

              https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

              FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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              @briankrebs there are no fucking US router makers what the fuck

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              • afink@mastodon.slA afink@mastodon.sl

                @briankrebs ok so go buy a cisco router for 2000 dollars now for your home. But wait, where is it manufactured? outside the US... I frankly dont know any router which is completely made in the US ONLY. This is the dumbest ruling ever. It will isolate the US from the world (if not someone else would not have already taken care of that).

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                #70

                @afink @briankrebs

                Yes. Isolation might even be the point.

                Easy to hide movement or oddities when these actions can not quickly be reported and communicated.

                How dependent on routers is the midterm elections?

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                • moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM moira@mastodon.murkworks.net

                  @briankrebs The text version says previously-approved models are still approved. ***Asterisks*** added to point out the relevant section.

                  What the actual fuck, team shitstain?

                  "As outlined below, today’s action does not impact a consumer’s continued use of routers they previously acquired. ***Nor does it prevent retailers from continuing to sell, import, or market router models approved previously through the FCC’s equipment authorization process. By operation of the FCC’s Covered List rules, the restrictions imposed today apply to new device models."***

                  eta link:

                  https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-420034A1.txt

                  eta emphasis: THIS DOES NOT MAKE THIS RULING OKAY. It just means routers don't immediately disappear from shelves.

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                  @briankrebs This text is also in the PDF version News Release, I'm not opening a Microsoft Word document to check that version. But it's not in just one edition.

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                  • anyia@lgbtqia.spaceA anyia@lgbtqia.space

                    @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs corollary: other countries should not import any US made routers, due to national security concerns

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                    @anyia @raphaelmorgan @briankrebs Are there any US made routers?

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                    • freya@social.highenergymagic.netF freya@social.highenergymagic.net

                      @briankrebs there are no fucking US router makers what the fuck

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                      @briankrebs at least not enough to, like, like, what the fuck

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                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                        Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                        "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                        WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                        "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                        "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                        "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                        Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                        https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                        FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                        @briankrebs

                        This FCC decision regarding imported routers is FUBAR, the standard operating procedure for Donald Trump's maladminisration.

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                        • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                          @rpardee @SeanPLynch @briankrebs

                          STOP. 😅 (oh my God it just gets worse and worse, doesn’t it?)

                          Yeah, I can imagine some future Trump branded router. You take it out of its box and it’s obviously been opened in the packaging is kind of been tampered with and then there’s like white dust and greasy fingerprints all over it.

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                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @rpardee @briankrebs

                          New Trump Eagle lucky #22 freedom router!
                          Only $999.99!

                          (With improvement Chinglish instructions of installing.)

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                          • mrbranch40@mastodon.worldM mrbranch40@mastodon.world

                            @afink @briankrebs

                            Yes. Isolation might even be the point.

                            Easy to hide movement or oddities when these actions can not quickly be reported and communicated.

                            How dependent on routers is the midterm elections?

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                            @MrBranch40 @briankrebs it will fire back on the economy. they do everything to implode

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                              @arfy @briankrebs My thought exactly. That would constitute pretty much all routers on the market from what I understand.

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                              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                                "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                                WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                                "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                                "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                                "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                                Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                                https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                                FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                                @briankrebs So no new, not previously approved, consumer grade routers are allowed, but all currently approved models are still ok to import and use? No WiFi 8 for us!

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                                • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                                  @briankrebs 1) "If you've already bought it, it's fine." They realize how they'd cripple the entire US internet if they didn't include this, but at the same time, by doing so, they admit that this really isn't a problem at all, it's a trade control measure, like tariffs.

                                  2) "Conditional Approval". There's the "pay me, and I'll let you sell your stuff" angle.

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                                  @ZenHeathen @briankrebs i worry a lot about that four port router I have in the office. Hope this doesn't include the TP-Link home-AV + two ethernet porte adapter or my ASUS wifi.

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                                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                    Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                                    "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                                    WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                                    "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                                    "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                                    "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                                    Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                                    https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                                    FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                                    @briankrebs So US consumers will be forced to have routers which are NSA approved as providing full data and streams to authorities to check if you're saying anything they don't like.

                                    Good reason for having a more trusted router and VPN so all the NSA approved router can eavesdrop is a securely encrypted VPN tunnel

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                                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                      Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                                      "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                                      WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                                      "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                                      "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                                      "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                                      Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                                      https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                                      FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                                      @briankrebs
                                      Does anyone have a conglomerate-to-consumer-brand translation of those companies?

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                                      • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                                        @glynd@mastodon.world @briankrebs@infosec.exchange unless you're spending a few $1000s, there isn't (US made) "business-grade".

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                                        @ferricoxide @briankrebs @glynd they dont have to use your criteria for what is "consumer-grade", i imagine with a small bribe that the router you rent from your ISP is exempt, and that Spectrum and Comcast would be all onboard.

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                                        • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                                          @briankrebs 1) "If you've already bought it, it's fine." They realize how they'd cripple the entire US internet if they didn't include this, but at the same time, by doing so, they admit that this really isn't a problem at all, it's a trade control measure, like tariffs.

                                          2) "Conditional Approval". There's the "pay me, and I'll let you sell your stuff" angle.

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                                          @ZenHeathen Can’t wait to see how they walk back those security concerns when the foreign firms submit their bribes.

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