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Whoa, that escalated quickly.

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  • inchulk@mastodon.greenI inchulk@mastodon.green

    @briankrebs There is a logic to this. If a foreign country might cause their nation's soft/hardware to be used in a way that is nationalistic - then a ban could be justified. So by this logic, the EU, Canada & Southern hemisphere countries should immediately ban all new Microsoft, Meta, Apple and Amazon products.

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    #96

    @IncHulk I mean, honestly we should ALL be doing that anyway.

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    • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

      @briankrebs What a bunch of fucking idiots.

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      #97

      @drewtowler @briankrebs This is my favorite response so far.

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      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

        Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

        "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

        WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

        "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

        "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

        "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

        Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

        https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

        FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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        #98

        @briankrebs

        This stinks of a precursor to something extremely sinister.

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        • velobusdriver@techhub.socialV velobusdriver@techhub.social

          @briankrebs So... Gear from Ubiquiti Networks is going to be in short supply for a while, I suspect...

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          #99

          @VeloBusDriver @briankrebs

          From what I saw quoted -- equipment already fcc certified is safe thankfully.

          (Unless they clarify in a different way.)

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

            "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

            WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

            "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

            "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

            "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

            Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

            https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

            FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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            #100

            @briankrebs

            2027 FOR SALE AD:

            Netgear ORBI 750 series, 3 node WiFi Mesh Router. In perfect condition. Was purchased prior to March 23rd, 2026. Have receipts.

            $10,000 OBO

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            • norombasic@mastodon.worldN norombasic@mastodon.world

              @briankrebs

              2027 FOR SALE AD:

              Netgear ORBI 750 series, 3 node WiFi Mesh Router. In perfect condition. Was purchased prior to March 23rd, 2026. Have receipts.

              $10,000 OBO

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              @NoRomBasic @briankrebs good lord just run Linux/bsd and offload the asic stuff to a dpu or mellanox card 🙂
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              • softspeak@defcon.socialS softspeak@defcon.social

                @briankrebs

                But everything in made in China 😭

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                #102

                @softspeak @briankrebs Shhhhh.... Don't tell them anything.

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                • rapsneezy@mastodon.socialR rapsneezy@mastodon.social

                  @briankrebs

                  Some patriotic buying options for Americans:

                  Link Preview Image
                  Top 10 Router Companies in Israel 2025 - ESSFeed

                  Introduction:

                  favicon

                  ESSFeed (essfeed.com)

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                  #103

                  @rapsneezy @briankrebs Pouring salt onto the wound. 🧂

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                  • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

                    @briankrebs next stop "you will use only our approved router products with built in spying"

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                    @etchedpixels @briankrebs Time to install DDWRT.

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                    • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                      @briankrebs

                      This stinks of a precursor to something extremely sinister.

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                      #105

                      @IT_SME @briankrebs
                      they are definitely going after VPNs soon

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                      • raven667@hachyderm.ioR raven667@hachyderm.io

                        @SeanPLynch for some reason its only capable of 45Mbit though...

                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @rpardee @briankrebs

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                        @raven667 @SeanPLynch @GhostOnTheHalfShell @rpardee @briankrebs Big OOF

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                        • dark_stang@kind.socialD dark_stang@kind.social

                          @briankrebs I don't think there is a single router being manufactured in the US? Doesn't this effectively mean no routers for US Internet?

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                          @dark_stang @briankrebs *Insert Sad Trombone*

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                          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                            Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                            "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                            WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                            "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                            "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                            "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                            Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                            https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                            FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                            @briankrebs

                            If any of you owns a consumer-grade #internet #router that has a label saying "Made in USA", please reply.

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                            • mkoek@mastodon.nlM mkoek@mastodon.nl

                              @briankrebs they’ll probably just do the final assembly somewhere in the US then

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                              @mkoek @briankrebs "Production generally includes any major stage of the process through which the device is made, including manufacturing, assembly, design, and development."

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                                @starraven @briankrebs except most routing at home is WiFi.

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                                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                  Whoa, that escalated quickly. This just got sent out by the press folks at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The FCC says it has decided that all foreign-made consumer-grade Internet routers are henceforth prohibited from receiving FCC authorization and are therefore prohibited from being imported for use or sale in the United States.

                                  "Update Follows Determination by Executive Branch Agencies that Consumer-Grade Routers Produced in Foreign Countries Threaten National Security

                                  WASHINGTON, March 23, 2026—Today, the Federal Communications Commission updated its Covered List to include all consumer-grade routers produced in foreign countries. Routers are the boxes in every home that connect computers, phones, and smart devices to the internet. This followed a determination by a White House-convened Executive Branch interagency body with appropriate national security expertise that such routers “pose unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or the safety and security of United States persons.”

                                  "The Executive Branch determination noted that foreign-produced routers (1) introduce “a supply chain vulnerability that could disrupt the U.S. economy, critical infrastructure, and national defense” and (2) pose “a severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons.”

                                  "This action does not affect any previously-purchased consumer-grade routers. Consumers can continue to use any router they have already lawfully purchased or acquired."

                                  "Producers of consumer-grade routers that receive Conditional Approval from DoW or DHS can continue to receive FCC equipment authorizations. Interested applicants are encouraged to submit applications to conditional-approvals@fcc.gov."

                                  Not sure how many consumer-grade routers will be left for sale if it really is a ban on approvals for any foreign-made consumer routers like they said, and not just a bunch of already restricted Chinese makers like Huawei and ZTE.

                                  https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers

                                  FCC's "covered list" of "thou shalt not entities": https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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                                  #111

                                  @briankrebs
                                  I hotspot from my samsung phone (I have a good data plan).

                                  is my phone going to be a problem now?

                                  iPhones?

                                  or Data Plans?

                                  I suspect VPNs are going to be banned too.

                                  Basically cutting the USA from the rest of the world... so they can commit their atrocities in secret.

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                                  • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

                                    @simonzerafa @briankrebs If this order were challenged and any competent expert witness was asked whether it served a rational basis, the answer would be a resounding no. The problem is further back in the supply chain, not in final assembly.
                                    2/

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                                    @brouhaha @simonzerafa @briankrebs This was the very first thing I brought up to my co-worker.

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                                    • wall_e@ioc.exchangeW wall_e@ioc.exchange

                                      @briankrebs "produced in foreign countries"... How many consumer grade routers are "Made in USA" ?
                                      Are there any?

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                                      #113

                                      @wall_e @briankrebs Shhhh... don't tell them anything.

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                                      • raven667@hachyderm.ioR raven667@hachyderm.io

                                        @ferricoxide @briankrebs @glynd they dont have to use your criteria for what is "consumer-grade", i imagine with a small bribe that the router you rent from your ISP is exempt, and that Spectrum and Comcast would be all onboard.

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                                        @raven667 @ferricoxide @briankrebs @glynd I note that the garbage CPEs that my ISP telcos force upon me are branded Arris, which is about the only US domiciled consumer grade router vendor I can think of.,

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