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How far back in time can you understand English?

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  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

    How far back in time can you understand English?

    It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

    "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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    @Natasha_Jay "environs" is my favorite word so far

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    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

      How far back in time can you understand English?

      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

      "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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      @Natasha_Jay I could read 1200 with difficulty, but nothing older.

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      • beatricejess@masto.bikeB beatricejess@masto.bike

        @Natasha_Jay but much more easier written than spoken !

        Here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=842OX2_vCic

        Well I 'm lost until modern English

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        @beatricejess @Natasha_Jay

        when the kite picked up the chicken, i heard the word chicken clear as day, so that was around 950 to even get the first word & i understood nothing much else for a few more centuries...

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        • beatricejess@masto.bikeB beatricejess@masto.bike

          @Natasha_Jay but much more easier written than spoken !

          Here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=842OX2_vCic

          Well I 'm lost until modern English

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          #75

          I picked up right away that the guy was a lousy farmer with no cows, so pretty happy about that!

          I guess it helps being a Scandinavian who understands German, has Scottish friends, and knows enough Dutch to know what a bauer is. There's a lot of words from all over the place.
          @beatricejess @Natasha_Jay

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          • mab_813@fedi.atM mab_813@fedi.at

            @Thumper1964 @Natasha_Jay @WeirdWriter

            For those interested, Samuel Pepys is also in the Fediverse: @samuelpepys

            He's a 17th century guy so he can really be a sexist asshole. He's an interesting person to follow, not many people from the 17th century around here 😉

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            @Mab_813 @Natasha_Jay @WeirdWriter @samuelpepys Sexist asshole is right! On many days in his diary he very strongly insinuates that he practices, shall we say, extracurricular activities with many women not his wife. Still fascinating, though. Definitely a different time and place.

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            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

              How far back in time can you understand English?

              It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

              "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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              @Natasha_Jay Started losing me in 1500 & totally lost me in 1400 but I didn't try to get any father than that. 🤷‍♂️

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                How far back in time can you understand English?

                It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                #english #language

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                #78

                @Natasha_Jay Anything past 1500s is a battle I lose. Despite having studied this decades ago.

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                • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

                  @beatricejess @Natasha_Jay

                  when the kite picked up the chicken, i heard the word chicken clear as day, so that was around 950 to even get the first word & i understood nothing much else for a few more centuries...

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                  @peachfront @beatricejess @Natasha_Jay

                  i love this.

                  i got the "swine" from day one, and the chicken soon after 😂

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                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                    How far back in time can you understand English?

                    It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                    "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                    How far back in time can you understand English?

                    An experiment in language change

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                    #english #language

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                    #80

                    @Natasha_Jay Loved that. I hit a wall at the 1200 section.

                    This is the kind of exercise any pedant needs to go through. There is no "pure" English to preserve. It's a living language.

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                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                      How far back in time can you understand English?

                      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                      "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                      How far back in time can you understand English?

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                      #english #language

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                      @Natasha_Jay

                      I read it easily back through 1600. I'm used to Shakespearean English, so it was comfortably familiar.

                      At 1500, I had to begin reading aloud, because the typography looked strange, so I needed to actually hear the words, but once I heard them, it easily made total sense.

                      At 1400, my reading aloud went much slower, with some backtracking ("Ah, wait, that's what that word is!"), but once I nailed the words, there was not a problem understanding it. Sort of like reading Chaucer.

                      At 1300, I began to have serious problems. There were a number words I just couldn't figure out at all. Got maybe three-fourths of the passage, but there were a lot of gaps.

                      At 1200, I hit a wall and had difficulty climbing it. I only got about two words in every ten. I managed to figure out that the narrator had somehow escaped, but I have no idea whatsoever how he managed that.

                      At 1100, my comprehension simply evaporated. I had no idea at all what was happening from that point on.

                      Thank you! This exercise was a lot of fun!

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