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After having used #docker_swarm for many years for my private business server, it's time to say goodbye.

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  • whyhankee@fosstodon.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
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    After having used #docker_swarm for many years for my private business server, it's time to say goodbye. With a little reluctance, since it has served me really well. I have always loved Docker Swarm for its simplicity and ease of use for small projects or even small businesses.

    Now I'm moving on — first idea is managed #Kubernetes using #hetznerk3s, why:

    * Cloud-based in Europe.
    * Really good cost-benefit ratio.

    Anyone else using this? Recommendations, experiences?

    gemelen@mammut.moeG johanneskastl@digitalcourage.socialJ ralfsuess@nrw.socialR luciddan@fosstodon.orgL 4 Replies Last reply
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    • whyhankee@fosstodon.orgW whyhankee@fosstodon.org

      After having used #docker_swarm for many years for my private business server, it's time to say goodbye. With a little reluctance, since it has served me really well. I have always loved Docker Swarm for its simplicity and ease of use for small projects or even small businesses.

      Now I'm moving on — first idea is managed #Kubernetes using #hetznerk3s, why:

      * Cloud-based in Europe.
      * Really good cost-benefit ratio.

      Anyone else using this? Recommendations, experiences?

      gemelen@mammut.moeG This user is from outside of this forum
      gemelen@mammut.moeG This user is from outside of this forum
      gemelen@mammut.moe
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      @whyhankee
      A quite robust solution.
      With its choice of the MicroOS (immutable server distro from openSuSE) as a host OS and a bit of configuration efforts of system-upgrade-controller and kured to automate the host and the kubernetes upgrades you may get a cluster that keep itself healthy and actual with relatively low effort.
      I'd say it's easier to maintain than a AWS EKS one.

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      • whyhankee@fosstodon.orgW whyhankee@fosstodon.org

        After having used #docker_swarm for many years for my private business server, it's time to say goodbye. With a little reluctance, since it has served me really well. I have always loved Docker Swarm for its simplicity and ease of use for small projects or even small businesses.

        Now I'm moving on — first idea is managed #Kubernetes using #hetznerk3s, why:

        * Cloud-based in Europe.
        * Really good cost-benefit ratio.

        Anyone else using this? Recommendations, experiences?

        johanneskastl@digitalcourage.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        johanneskastl@digitalcourage.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @whyhankee Podman Quadlets are a simple way to manage containers, if you do not want / cannot use k3s.

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          @whyhankee Podman Quadlets are a simple way to manage containers, if you do not want / cannot use k3s.

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          @whyhankee FYI I use both Quadlets, k3s and rke2 on my servers (different ones, of course...)

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            @whyhankee
            A quite robust solution.
            With its choice of the MicroOS (immutable server distro from openSuSE) as a host OS and a bit of configuration efforts of system-upgrade-controller and kured to automate the host and the kubernetes upgrades you may get a cluster that keep itself healthy and actual with relatively low effort.
            I'd say it's easier to maintain than a AWS EKS one.

            whyhankee@fosstodon.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
            whyhankee@fosstodon.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
            whyhankee@fosstodon.org
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            @gemelen Thank you for your reply! Helpful as Im learning!

            * Arm for control plane! Good one, already saving money!
            * Node-groups, that seems not available to me as I use hetzner-k3s to deploy (not tf)
            * Backup, good to note. On the todo list! 🙂
            * Rancher, I believe hetzner-k3s uses that, you mean to install the UI yourself?

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            • whyhankee@fosstodon.orgW whyhankee@fosstodon.org

              After having used #docker_swarm for many years for my private business server, it's time to say goodbye. With a little reluctance, since it has served me really well. I have always loved Docker Swarm for its simplicity and ease of use for small projects or even small businesses.

              Now I'm moving on — first idea is managed #Kubernetes using #hetznerk3s, why:

              * Cloud-based in Europe.
              * Really good cost-benefit ratio.

              Anyone else using this? Recommendations, experiences?

              ralfsuess@nrw.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
              ralfsuess@nrw.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @whyhankee why the change, i'm curious.

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              • whyhankee@fosstodon.orgW whyhankee@fosstodon.org

                After having used #docker_swarm for many years for my private business server, it's time to say goodbye. With a little reluctance, since it has served me really well. I have always loved Docker Swarm for its simplicity and ease of use for small projects or even small businesses.

                Now I'm moving on — first idea is managed #Kubernetes using #hetznerk3s, why:

                * Cloud-based in Europe.
                * Really good cost-benefit ratio.

                Anyone else using this? Recommendations, experiences?

                luciddan@fosstodon.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
                luciddan@fosstodon.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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                @whyhankee Made the same transition myself. I’m deploying with Hetzner-k3s then argocd, with everything deployed and managed gitops style. Three arm cax11 master nodes in three locations, traefik to balance traffic, crunchydata Postgres-operator to manage my postgresql db, so far everything fits on the three masters, much to my surprise.
                Haven’t even bothered with a load balancer atm - just using round robin dns atm. A lot of bang for buck!

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                • whyhankee@fosstodon.orgW whyhankee@fosstodon.org

                  @gemelen Thank you for your reply! Helpful as Im learning!

                  * Arm for control plane! Good one, already saving money!
                  * Node-groups, that seems not available to me as I use hetzner-k3s to deploy (not tf)
                  * Backup, good to note. On the todo list! 🙂
                  * Rancher, I believe hetzner-k3s uses that, you mean to install the UI yourself?

                  gemelen@mammut.moeG This user is from outside of this forum
                  gemelen@mammut.moeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @whyhankee

                  - node-groups: wasn't sure about non-Terraform approach, but it's possible too, check the YAML config https://vitobotta.github.io/hetzner-k3s/Creating_a_cluster/, where you could add different pools under the 'worker_node_pools'

                  - if the Rancher is installed by the app, then use it as is, otherwise I'd recommend to install it afterwards (via Helm, for example)

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