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If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

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  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

    If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

    Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

    Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

    #AI #LLM

    catwoman69y2k@meow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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    catwoman69y2k@meow.social
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    #11

    @stux Is there a particular instance you have witnessed/experienced this behavior from? Harassment is not okay, and that includes when a bot does said harassment

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    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

      If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

      Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

      Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

      #AI #LLM

      justincrozer@mastodon.greenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      justincrozer@mastodon.green
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      #12

      @stux I don’t really like automated bot accounts either. I mean if one uses a service like buffer to cross post that’s okay but the ones that scrape certain words and hashtags to just boost annoy me.

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      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

        If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

        Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

        Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

        #AI #LLM

        swope@mstdn.plusS This user is from outside of this forum
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        swope@mstdn.plus
        wrote last edited by
        #13

        @stux

        Do you mean to include plain-automation bots?

        I think those can be useful in some cases.

        But I agree that LLMs disguised as humans harassing humans is certainly bad.

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        • swope@mstdn.plusS swope@mstdn.plus

          @stux

          Do you mean to include plain-automation bots?

          I think those can be useful in some cases.

          But I agree that LLMs disguised as humans harassing humans is certainly bad.

          stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          stux@mstdn.social
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          #14

          @swope No, no, just the LLM ones

          Acting like human

          RSS bots etc are super useful

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          • finitebanjo@feddit.onlineF finitebanjo@feddit.online

            Hell yeah, man. Personally, I'd be willing to solve a puzzle every half an hour when I navigate to the homepage or post a reply.

            crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #15

            @FiniteBanjo

            The clankers can also solve those puzzles too.

            And when a new puzzle is found that works for humans but not clanker soon is retrained so it too can solve.

            I dont have any solutions, other than what would amount to Butlerian Jihad.

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            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

              If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

              Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

              Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

              #AI #LLM

              wikifox@g0v.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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              wikifox@g0v.social
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              #16

              @stux I can't understand why my teacher say OpenClaw(AI Agents) can replace real human's job.

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              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                #AI #LLM

                lunadragofelis@void.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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                lunadragofelis@void.lgbt
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                #17
                @stux Humans and sentient creatures welcome! (Not every fedi user considers themselves human, even if they have a human body)
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                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                  If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                  Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                  Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                  #AI #LLM

                  ferret@hub.workersofthe.worldF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  ferret@hub.workersofthe.world
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                  #18
                  @stux⚡️ I've got one going as part of a running experiment. I'm transparent about it, though, and it isn't fully automated. People are definitely within their rights to block the clanker if they just don't want anything to do with it, though the experiment does depend on some level of engagement.
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                  • catwoman69y2k@meow.socialC catwoman69y2k@meow.social

                    @stux Is there a particular instance you have witnessed/experienced this behavior from? Harassment is not okay, and that includes when a bot does said harassment

                    msh@coales.coM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #19

                    @Catwoman69y2k the biggest 3 offenders of spammy/scammy #LLM #AI bots appearing on my server have been mastodon.social, mastodon.online and mastodon.world though they don't exactly "harass", they are all looking to mass follow to acquire training data at best, or commit large scale fraud at worst. I don't think the admins of those servers are being deliberately neglectful, it is mainly because they are too big for their admin teams to stay on top of.

                    IMO for fedi owners and admins the best policy is to disable open account creation and require manual review or invite only, but many people resist that because it would slow adoption growth and larger instances would gave to to a huge amount of work to manually approve new accounts.

                    All fair points, but in this age of out of control AI slop it might just be that the best path to success for fedi is to massively increase the number of servers with the average server side being much smaller, because smaller servers are much easier to manage.

                    @stux

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                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                      If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                      Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                      Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                      #AI #LLM

                      robchapman@ohai.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #20

                      @stux A.I needs exterminating, it's a poison, being peddled by people who have the same motivations as those who peddle drugs that have destroyed communities in every corner of the globe

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                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                        If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                        Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                        Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                        #AI #LLM

                        oranger@piaille.frO This user is from outside of this forum
                        oranger@piaille.frO This user is from outside of this forum
                        oranger@piaille.fr
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                        #21

                        @stux by all means !

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                        • ferret@hub.workersofthe.worldF ferret@hub.workersofthe.world
                          @stux⚡️ I've got one going as part of a running experiment. I'm transparent about it, though, and it isn't fully automated. People are definitely within their rights to block the clanker if they just don't want anything to do with it, though the experiment does depend on some level of engagement.
                          ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                          ohir@social.vivaldi.net
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                          #22

                          @ferret
                          > as part of a running experiment
                          Is your experiment directed toward finding the best #aipoison ?

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                          • msh@coales.coM msh@coales.co

                            @Catwoman69y2k the biggest 3 offenders of spammy/scammy #LLM #AI bots appearing on my server have been mastodon.social, mastodon.online and mastodon.world though they don't exactly "harass", they are all looking to mass follow to acquire training data at best, or commit large scale fraud at worst. I don't think the admins of those servers are being deliberately neglectful, it is mainly because they are too big for their admin teams to stay on top of.

                            IMO for fedi owners and admins the best policy is to disable open account creation and require manual review or invite only, but many people resist that because it would slow adoption growth and larger instances would gave to to a huge amount of work to manually approve new accounts.

                            All fair points, but in this age of out of control AI slop it might just be that the best path to success for fedi is to massively increase the number of servers with the average server side being much smaller, because smaller servers are much easier to manage.

                            @stux

                            dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org
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                            #23

                            @msh @Catwoman69y2k @stux I remember reading mastodon.world may not be moderated anymore - no actions after admin reports of things that are clearly against the server's written policy.

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                            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                              If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                              Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                              Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                              #AI #LLM

                              fae2535@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              fae2535@mstdn.social
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                              #24

                              @stux

                              Thanks!

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                              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                                Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                                Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                                #AI #LLM

                                lrt_writes@mstdn.partyL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                lrt_writes@mstdn.party
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                                #25

                                @stux Agree. What instances are allowing AI agents?

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                                • mfierst@mstdn.socialM mfierst@mstdn.social

                                  @stux
                                  Thank you. I agree, let's keep the Fediverse human.

                                  janwwbosch@mastodon.ieJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  janwwbosch@mastodon.ie
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                                  #26

                                  @mfierst @stux wait... What ... I'm supposed to be human!

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                                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                    If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                                    Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                                    Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                                    #AI #LLM

                                    chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.scienceC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.science
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                                    #27

                                    @stux #AI is #clankers 🤖 all the way down.

                                    #Resist #AIslop in the #fediverse.

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                                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                      If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                                      Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                                      Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                                      #AI #LLM

                                      kkarhan@infosec.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      kkarhan@infosec.space
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                                      #28

                                      @stux +9001%

                                      In fact I wounder if you already have blocked Scrapers, #AIslop content and other garbage already…

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                                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                        If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                                        Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                                        Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                                        #AI #LLM

                                        xchaos@f.czX This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        xchaos@f.cz
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                                        #29

                                        @stux Yes. I am deleting about 3 botnet generated accounts per day. If anoyone wants to discuss "how do you know, that it is botnet account", just feel free to ask.

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                                        • xchaos@f.czX xchaos@f.cz

                                          @stux Yes. I am deleting about 3 botnet generated accounts per day. If anoyone wants to discuss "how do you know, that it is botnet account", just feel free to ask.

                                          apnoe_soeren@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          apnoe_soeren@mastodon.social
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #30

                                          @xChaos @stux How to know?

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