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  3. Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals.

Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals.

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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals. Ex: Microsoft gives money to OpenAI, who gives it back to Microsoft for Azure credits, which Microsoft then reports as "AI Growth".

    Microsoft and Nvidia fund AI startups that buy their own tech back to report "growth." With $600b burning in data centers in 2026 alone but no real revenue to back it up.

    If that loop snaps, the "fuck up" will be massive.

    #ai

    glc@mastodon.onlineG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @nixCraft

    Illustrated at
    https://bsky.app/profile/anthonycr.bsky.social/post/3lzj5pbfxxc2g?ref=wheresyoured.at
    and discussed in more detail at
    https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-case-against-generative-ai/#here’s-a-diagram-of-how-unbelievably-circular-all-the-money-in-ai-compute-has-become

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals. Ex: Microsoft gives money to OpenAI, who gives it back to Microsoft for Azure credits, which Microsoft then reports as "AI Growth".

      Microsoft and Nvidia fund AI startups that buy their own tech back to report "growth." With $600b burning in data centers in 2026 alone but no real revenue to back it up.

      If that loop snaps, the "fuck up" will be massive.

      #ai

      bjornqc@mstdn.caB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @nixCraft Sometimes called “cheque kiting”. Write a cheque on Bank A, payable to your business. Deposit in Bank B. Next day, before the cheque has cleared inter-bank processing, write a cheque on Bank B for a like amount, deposit it in Bank C. Repeat with a cheque from Bank C to Bank A. Make the shuffle longer, you may be able to withdraw cash or pay third parties with funds that don’t exist. When a Bank finally catches on, apologize and say you will look into it.

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals. Ex: Microsoft gives money to OpenAI, who gives it back to Microsoft for Azure credits, which Microsoft then reports as "AI Growth".

        Microsoft and Nvidia fund AI startups that buy their own tech back to report "growth." With $600b burning in data centers in 2026 alone but no real revenue to back it up.

        If that loop snaps, the "fuck up" will be massive.

        #ai

        thickurt@woof.groupT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @nixCraft love to read more about that 600 billion number you shared!

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals. Ex: Microsoft gives money to OpenAI, who gives it back to Microsoft for Azure credits, which Microsoft then reports as "AI Growth".

          Microsoft and Nvidia fund AI startups that buy their own tech back to report "growth." With $600b burning in data centers in 2026 alone but no real revenue to back it up.

          If that loop snaps, the "fuck up" will be massive.

          #ai

          ag100pct@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @nixCraft
          It's all explained quite simply here:

          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pB7faDHkHJI

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          • glc@mastodon.onlineG glc@mastodon.online

            @nixCraft

            Illustrated at
            https://bsky.app/profile/anthonycr.bsky.social/post/3lzj5pbfxxc2g?ref=wheresyoured.at
            and discussed in more detail at
            https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-case-against-generative-ai/#here’s-a-diagram-of-how-unbelievably-circular-all-the-money-in-ai-compute-has-become

            mogul@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @glc @nixCraft No need to complicate this.

            (source unknown to me)

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals. Ex: Microsoft gives money to OpenAI, who gives it back to Microsoft for Azure credits, which Microsoft then reports as "AI Growth".

              Microsoft and Nvidia fund AI startups that buy their own tech back to report "growth." With $600b burning in data centers in 2026 alone but no real revenue to back it up.

              If that loop snaps, the "fuck up" will be massive.

              #ai

              htpcnz@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @nixCraft this is now widely known for at least three months now? Where is the crash? There will be no crash until enough of "normal" peoples money is invested in it. If one man, fElon can keep the Tesla scam going for now over a decade, bunch of blue chip companies - it is not just two mentioned playing this game, along with vcs - will easily keep this charade until they want it to end.

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals. Ex: Microsoft gives money to OpenAI, who gives it back to Microsoft for Azure credits, which Microsoft then reports as "AI Growth".

                Microsoft and Nvidia fund AI startups that buy their own tech back to report "growth." With $600b burning in data centers in 2026 alone but no real revenue to back it up.

                If that loop snaps, the "fuck up" will be massive.

                #ai

                contrasocial@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @nixCraft

                As long as we don't bail them out with tax dollars...we aren't going to bail them out....right?

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals. Ex: Microsoft gives money to OpenAI, who gives it back to Microsoft for Azure credits, which Microsoft then reports as "AI Growth".

                  Microsoft and Nvidia fund AI startups that buy their own tech back to report "growth." With $600b burning in data centers in 2026 alone but no real revenue to back it up.

                  If that loop snaps, the "fuck up" will be massive.

                  #ai

                  bobschi@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @nixCraft not if, when.

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals. Ex: Microsoft gives money to OpenAI, who gives it back to Microsoft for Azure credits, which Microsoft then reports as "AI Growth".

                    Microsoft and Nvidia fund AI startups that buy their own tech back to report "growth." With $600b burning in data centers in 2026 alone but no real revenue to back it up.

                    If that loop snaps, the "fuck up" will be massive.

                    #ai

                    myzanilred@equestria.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @nixCraft "Expecting to grow to infinity, is like building a boat designed to sink."

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      Just like 2008 had "Subprime Mortgages (or "Dot Com" crash) that nobody understood, 2026 has "Circular AI Revenue" deals. Ex: Microsoft gives money to OpenAI, who gives it back to Microsoft for Azure credits, which Microsoft then reports as "AI Growth".

                      Microsoft and Nvidia fund AI startups that buy their own tech back to report "growth." With $600b burning in data centers in 2026 alone but no real revenue to back it up.

                      If that loop snaps, the "fuck up" will be massive.

                      #ai

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                      @nixCraft The excrements are steadily progressing toward the propeller.

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