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  3. i think it's neat how every time i make something i get a little better at making things, and every time you rent the ability to make things from a slop machine you get a little worse at making things.

i think it's neat how every time i make something i get a little better at making things, and every time you rent the ability to make things from a slop machine you get a little worse at making things.

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  • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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    i think it's neat how every time i make something i get a little better at making things, and every time you rent the ability to make things from a slop machine you get a little worse at making things. imagine how talented we'll both be after a few years of this :3

    celestia@tech.lgbtC swetland@chaos.socialS aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA areactis@mathstodon.xyzA aldroid@mastodon.socialA 8 Replies Last reply
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    • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

      i think it's neat how every time i make something i get a little better at making things, and every time you rent the ability to make things from a slop machine you get a little worse at making things. imagine how talented we'll both be after a few years of this :3

      celestia@tech.lgbtC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @aeva I'll keep making things so that I don't fall behind

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      • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

        i think it's neat how every time i make something i get a little better at making things, and every time you rent the ability to make things from a slop machine you get a little worse at making things. imagine how talented we'll both be after a few years of this :3

        swetland@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @aeva My favorite is making things I've never made before and learning new stuff along the way.

        Outsourcing that to the slop machine sort of misses the entire point of the exercise.

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        • swetland@chaos.socialS swetland@chaos.social

          @aeva My favorite is making things I've never made before and learning new stuff along the way.

          Outsourcing that to the slop machine sort of misses the entire point of the exercise.

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          @swetland making new things I've never made before is so fun! imagine giving that up for *nothing*

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          • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @swetland making new things I've never made before is so fun! imagine giving that up for *nothing*

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            @aeva It really is a head scratcher... the slop likers seem to want to give up everything to the machines... learning, creating, thinking, understanding... just outsource it all to mindless, soulless, unoriginal regurgitated slop... what a sad way to live.

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            • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

              i think it's neat how every time i make something i get a little better at making things, and every time you rent the ability to make things from a slop machine you get a little worse at making things. imagine how talented we'll both be after a few years of this :3

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              i swear this whole thing was a minor plot from Sailor Moon where the baddies are peddling a contraption that permanently steals the hard earned skills and talents of the general population in a ploy to revive the evil Queen Beryl, and Sailor Moon briefly gets swept up in the scheme but she's immune because she doesn't have any skills or talents and it goes on for about 10 minutes before her cat tells her to stop being a fool and start punching

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              • swetland@chaos.socialS swetland@chaos.social

                @aeva It really is a head scratcher... the slop likers seem to want to give up everything to the machines... learning, creating, thinking, understanding... just outsource it all to mindless, soulless, unoriginal regurgitated slop... what a sad way to live.

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                @swetland@chaos.social @aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                imagine giving that up for nothing
                and paying for the privilege to do so!

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                • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  i swear this whole thing was a minor plot from Sailor Moon where the baddies are peddling a contraption that permanently steals the hard earned skills and talents of the general population in a ploy to revive the evil Queen Beryl, and Sailor Moon briefly gets swept up in the scheme but she's immune because she doesn't have any skills or talents and it goes on for about 10 minutes before her cat tells her to stop being a fool and start punching

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                  @aeva "I don't have any skills or talents, I just woke up like this *hair toss*"
                  girl no offense but you need to leave

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                  • swetland@chaos.socialS swetland@chaos.social

                    @aeva It really is a head scratcher... the slop likers seem to want to give up everything to the machines... learning, creating, thinking, understanding... just outsource it all to mindless, soulless, unoriginal regurgitated slop... what a sad way to live.

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                    @aeva In a way I mostly feel bad for a lot of the random people who've bought into this nonsense.

                    The people who utterly enrage me are the evangelists and execs pushing this shit on people, mandating its use, and so on.

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                    • rygorous@mastodon.gamedev.placeR rygorous@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      @aeva "I don't have any skills or talents, I just woke up like this *hair toss*"
                      girl no offense but you need to leave

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                      @rygorous i can relate, all I need to do is run a brush through my majestic perfect silky long hair every few days and everything is fine

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                      • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @rygorous i can relate, all I need to do is run a brush through my majestic perfect silky long hair every few days and everything is fine

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                        @aeva girl no offense but you too need to leave

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                        • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          i think it's neat how every time i make something i get a little better at making things, and every time you rent the ability to make things from a slop machine you get a little worse at making things. imagine how talented we'll both be after a few years of this :3

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                          @aeva yeah, this worries me. I've got fear of falling behind on the one hand and fear of skill atrophy on the other, plus I don't know where the machines will be in another (1 year, 5 years, whatever)

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                          • rygorous@mastodon.gamedev.placeR rygorous@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @aeva girl no offense but you too need to leave

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                            @rygorous 😲

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                            • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @rygorous 😲

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                              @aeva look most of us need to exert constant effort to maintain this *gestures broadly* level of "vaguely adequate appearance" and this kind of humblebrag isn't gonna win you any friends

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                              • areactis@mathstodon.xyzA areactis@mathstodon.xyz

                                @aeva yeah, this worries me. I've got fear of falling behind on the one hand and fear of skill atrophy on the other, plus I don't know where the machines will be in another (1 year, 5 years, whatever)

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                                @areactis let's suppose the evangelists are right and their god machine is the real deal and it'll only keep getting better and better. if you went all in on ai, everything you invest time in now is going to be obsolete later, but also the promise is any fool will be able to operate it, so any ai job is going to eventually be considered unskilled labor and compensated accordingly.

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                                  @areactis let's suppose the evangelists are right and their god machine is the real deal and it'll only keep getting better and better. if you went all in on ai, everything you invest time in now is going to be obsolete later, but also the promise is any fool will be able to operate it, so any ai job is going to eventually be considered unskilled labor and compensated accordingly.

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                                  @areactis we don't have to consider the case where the evangelists are not lying about what it is right now, because there is ample empirical evidence already that these so-called "tools" do not actually save time and rely on skilled workers to prop them up. if you embrace the tools now all you will be doing is shoveling shit in the wind

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                                  • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @areactis we don't have to consider the case where the evangelists are not lying about what it is right now, because there is ample empirical evidence already that these so-called "tools" do not actually save time and rely on skilled workers to prop them up. if you embrace the tools now all you will be doing is shoveling shit in the wind

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                                    @areactis in any case, the best thing you can do strategically right now is keep your skills sharp, and a really good backup plan is to either learn and master a skill that computers can't do at all or specialize in a domain that is not well represented in any training sets and do you best not to let any of your work in that domain end up in future training sets

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                                    • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      i think it's neat how every time i make something i get a little better at making things, and every time you rent the ability to make things from a slop machine you get a little worse at making things. imagine how talented we'll both be after a few years of this :3

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                                      @aeva i burned out years back, and have been spending deliberate time in working through code problems to get my brain power back, pulling stuff apart, drawing structures out on paper, shutting myself in quiet spaces, writing down the simplest todo lists sometimes in order to beat the brainfog. i don't care if i only get marginally better, "just asking for things because it's the future" _is_ a form of giving up for me

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                                      • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @areactis in any case, the best thing you can do strategically right now is keep your skills sharp, and a really good backup plan is to either learn and master a skill that computers can't do at all or specialize in a domain that is not well represented in any training sets and do you best not to let any of your work in that domain end up in future training sets

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                                        @areactis if you embrace ai and the ai stuff really does "win" the only thing you will have of value to the leisure class is your willingness to be a liable party for when the machine fucks up, which it will do frequently

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                                        • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @areactis if you embrace ai and the ai stuff really does "win" the only thing you will have of value to the leisure class is your willingness to be a liable party for when the machine fucks up, which it will do frequently

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                                          @areactis everyone who is going along with it right now is helping create a future where the majority of programming jobs are minimum wage liability shields who also have to manage teams of virtual slaves, and the minority of the programming work will be performed by a dwindling pool of highly paid contractors who are periodically hired to fix crises created by the first group. the second group will dwindle because the turn over will be higher than the replacement rate

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