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Would this move by Debian, requiring byte-for-byte reproducible builds, have caught any real-world supply chain attacks seen in the past?

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    Would this move by Debian, requiring byte-for-byte reproducible builds, have caught any real-world supply chain attacks seen in the past?

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      Would this move by Debian, requiring byte-for-byte reproducible builds, have caught any real-world supply chain attacks seen in the past?

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      In a Big Move to Linux Security, Debian Makes Reproducible Builds Mandatory

      Packages that can't be rebuilt byte-for-byte are now blocked from entering Debian's testing branch.

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      @dangoodin it would not have caught the xz attack. But is the point of reproducible builds more about consistency and reliability than security?

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        @dangoodin it would not have caught the xz attack. But is the point of reproducible builds more about consistency and reliability than security?

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        @kemotep @dangoodin it’s about being able to prove that the binary distribution matches the source code. If the source code is already tainted it won’t help.

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          @dangoodin it would not have caught the xz attack. But is the point of reproducible builds more about consistency and reliability than security?

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          @kemotep @dangoodin well, in the xz case, it was actually one of the main contributors who slipped in the attack. There is little that can be done against that.

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