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i hate how disingenious this shit is.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    @q3k did you see Garage

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    @whitequark Yeah but that's not what I was referring to.

    (although I still don't trust Garage, mostly because they don't even have up to date architecture information that I can review)

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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      @whitequark a while ago I went investigating the infrastructure that delivers the gigabit line to my home and wasn’t surprised to discover the thousand or so homes on my estate shared a single 10 gigabit line until recently.

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      • carbontwelve@notacult.socialC carbontwelve@notacult.social

        @whitequark a while ago I went investigating the infrastructure that delivers the gigabit line to my home and wasn’t surprised to discover the thousand or so homes on my estate shared a single 10 gigabit line until recently.

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        @carbontwelve yep that's fairly normal

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        • q3k@social.hackerspace.plQ q3k@social.hackerspace.pl

          @whitequark I've met so many people who honestly believed their '1Gbps' home link is equivalent to a datacenter/commercial 1Gbps link. Even those who then worked on projects with similar assumptions. Never attribute to malice, etc.

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          @q3k back when I regularly went to the office I had a TB3 NIC with a direct fiber link to a backbone router on my desk. It ruined me. Even normal web browsing felt so different. It's wild how much the jitter in DSL/DOCSIS/GPON screws up TCP... @whitequark

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          • q3k@social.hackerspace.plQ q3k@social.hackerspace.pl

            @whitequark Yeah but that's not what I was referring to.

            (although I still don't trust Garage, mostly because they don't even have up to date architecture information that I can review)

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            @q3k @whitequark Is this applicable to their OSS/Docker offering too? I've been using it to test S3 apps locally.

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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              @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems Many residential ISPs have something hidden in their terms about restricting your bandwidth if you're using an excessive amount. eg saturating your 1GB/s connection 24/7.

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                @whitequark

                The whole reason the Internet works at all is that most people spend most of the time not transmitting. 🤦‍♂️

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                  @whitequark I've had clients like this that view headroom as waste, with predictable consequences

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                    @whitequark For me it's not the oversubscription, but more things like:

                    "What if you had guest wifi, except instead of your neighbours being able to use your internet it was shady people from all over the world?"

                    "Hate those “verifying your connection” interstitials? What if you made them even more likely to appear on your connection?"

                    (I'm not sure of the right way to handle overscription from my side, but I keep my "public service" usage throttled fairly low and non-commercial.)

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                      @whitequark a goldmine for LLM SEO people. imagine what search engine SEO you could do if google gave you control of their crawlers

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                        @cutesobri @azonenberg it's how ai crawlers are indistinguishable from DDoS attacks often

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                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                          @cutesobri @azonenberg it's how ai crawlers are indistinguishable from DDoS attacks often

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                          @whitequark @cutesobri business model: ai crawler that also sells ddos capability on the side by dialing up the crawl frequency for a specific domain on request

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