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i hate how disingenious this shit is.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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    azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @whitequark what is this, some kind of residential proxy service that lets you resell your bandwidth to run slop scrapers or something?

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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      @whitequark qbittorrent-nox running on my home server wouldn't agree with whatever this "grass" is.
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      • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

        @whitequark what is this, some kind of residential proxy service that lets you resell your bandwidth to run slop scrapers or something?

        whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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        @azonenberg yes

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          @azonenberg yes

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          @azonenberg it involves a crypto token too

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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            Text under a header.
            "Why It Matters
            You pay for internet every month. But most of it goes unused, doing nothing for you. Grass puts the unused part of your connection to work, and turns it into rewards. It's a resource you've always had. Now it works for you."

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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              @whitequark At least the name is honest in regards to what they smoked when they came up with that logic

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              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                @azonenberg it involves a crypto token too

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                @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems @azonenberg@ioc.exchange Well, if you're running a scam, why stop at one? ​​

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                  @whitequark I've met so many people who honestly believed their '1Gbps' home link is equivalent to a datacenter/commercial 1Gbps link. Even those who then worked on projects with similar assumptions. Never attribute to malice, etc.

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                  • q3k@social.hackerspace.plQ q3k@social.hackerspace.pl

                    @whitequark I've met so many people who honestly believed their '1Gbps' home link is equivalent to a datacenter/commercial 1Gbps link. Even those who then worked on projects with similar assumptions. Never attribute to malice, etc.

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                    @q3k these people are doing it at scale and for profit. I think they have to be aware of this just from the statistics

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                      @q3k did you see Garage

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                        @whitequark “what if everyone in society could do externalities, as hard as possible, all the time?”

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                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                          @q3k did you see Garage

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                          @whitequark Yeah but that's not what I was referring to.

                          (although I still don't trust Garage, mostly because they don't even have up to date architecture information that I can review)

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                            @whitequark a while ago I went investigating the infrastructure that delivers the gigabit line to my home and wasn’t surprised to discover the thousand or so homes on my estate shared a single 10 gigabit line until recently.

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                            • carbontwelve@notacult.socialC carbontwelve@notacult.social

                              @whitequark a while ago I went investigating the infrastructure that delivers the gigabit line to my home and wasn’t surprised to discover the thousand or so homes on my estate shared a single 10 gigabit line until recently.

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                              @carbontwelve yep that's fairly normal

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                              • q3k@social.hackerspace.plQ q3k@social.hackerspace.pl

                                @whitequark I've met so many people who honestly believed their '1Gbps' home link is equivalent to a datacenter/commercial 1Gbps link. Even those who then worked on projects with similar assumptions. Never attribute to malice, etc.

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                                @q3k back when I regularly went to the office I had a TB3 NIC with a direct fiber link to a backbone router on my desk. It ruined me. Even normal web browsing felt so different. It's wild how much the jitter in DSL/DOCSIS/GPON screws up TCP... @whitequark

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                                • q3k@social.hackerspace.plQ q3k@social.hackerspace.pl

                                  @whitequark Yeah but that's not what I was referring to.

                                  (although I still don't trust Garage, mostly because they don't even have up to date architecture information that I can review)

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                                  @q3k @whitequark Is this applicable to their OSS/Docker offering too? I've been using it to test S3 apps locally.

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                                    @whitequark@social.treehouse.systems Many residential ISPs have something hidden in their terms about restricting your bandwidth if you're using an excessive amount. eg saturating your 1GB/s connection 24/7.

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                                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                      i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                                      @whitequark

                                      The whole reason the Internet works at all is that most people spend most of the time not transmitting. 🤦‍♂️

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                                        @whitequark I've had clients like this that view headroom as waste, with predictable consequences

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                                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                          i hate how disingenious this shit is. i'm sure they understand what oversubscription is. they just don't care at all

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                                          @whitequark For me it's not the oversubscription, but more things like:

                                          "What if you had guest wifi, except instead of your neighbours being able to use your internet it was shady people from all over the world?"

                                          "Hate those “verifying your connection” interstitials? What if you made them even more likely to appear on your connection?"

                                          (I'm not sure of the right way to handle overscription from my side, but I keep my "public service" usage throttled fairly low and non-commercial.)

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