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  3. Wow. Internal test flights are a pain, Thanks apple, people need to be invited through App Store connect as part of your team to even show up in the list of developers you can add as a tester.

Wow. Internal test flights are a pain, Thanks apple, people need to be invited through App Store connect as part of your team to even show up in the list of developers you can add as a tester.

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  • T tamasg@mindly.social

    Wow. Internal test flights are a pain, Thanks apple, people need to be invited through App Store connect as part of your team to even show up in the list of developers you can add as a tester. At least Google doesn't get that invasive, this is very ironic off Apple to do. In Google you can just add people to the closed testing distribution group no problem. But Apple? Oh no, they have to be a role on your team first. Just, wow to you, big A.

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    mckensie@tweesecake.social
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    @Tamasg Gee, now you see why i choose android over Apple in certain cases? Stupid Apple

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      @Tamasg Gee, now you see why i choose android over Apple in certain cases? Stupid Apple

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      @mckensie @Tamasg Exactly long live Linux, Google and Android! I mean I cannot enter I'm not part of the thing

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      • T tamasg@mindly.social

        Wow. Internal test flights are a pain, Thanks apple, people need to be invited through App Store connect as part of your team to even show up in the list of developers you can add as a tester. At least Google doesn't get that invasive, this is very ironic off Apple to do. In Google you can just add people to the closed testing distribution group no problem. But Apple? Oh no, they have to be a role on your team first. Just, wow to you, big A.

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        @Tamasg This is why I'm holding off on doing that shit for my mobile app, got more important shit to deal with, but thanks anyway for sorting it out, I now have Speechbox on my phone and its good, sounds a bit different from the NVDA addon and SAPI versions, but I love the progress this synth has made over the last week or so.

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          @Tamasg This is why I'm holding off on doing that shit for my mobile app, got more important shit to deal with, but thanks anyway for sorting it out, I now have Speechbox on my phone and its good, sounds a bit different from the NVDA addon and SAPI versions, but I love the progress this synth has made over the last week or so.

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          tamasg@mindly.social
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          @alexchapman ah yeah, I'm also wondering the same thing, part of it to me feels like pitch is a bit too high on the iOS version even when compared to Android and Windows or SAPI. But I'm gonna need a few ears to confirm it for sure. The other part I notice is how much VoiceOver splits text bits into smaller chunks as it reads, which gets to be a bit more noticeable especially with how shit Espeak is at single-word speech, which kind of makes certain things reading like the status bar slightly more choppy. It's nothing that can't get used to, and I think further stress-pattern work to try and override Espeak or who knows, a better phonemizer, could solve it later on.

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          • T tamasg@mindly.social

            @alexchapman ah yeah, I'm also wondering the same thing, part of it to me feels like pitch is a bit too high on the iOS version even when compared to Android and Windows or SAPI. But I'm gonna need a few ears to confirm it for sure. The other part I notice is how much VoiceOver splits text bits into smaller chunks as it reads, which gets to be a bit more noticeable especially with how shit Espeak is at single-word speech, which kind of makes certain things reading like the status bar slightly more choppy. It's nothing that can't get used to, and I think further stress-pattern work to try and override Espeak or who knows, a better phonemizer, could solve it later on.

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            @Tamasg Ye I agree on both things there.

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            • T tamasg@mindly.social

              Wow. Internal test flights are a pain, Thanks apple, people need to be invited through App Store connect as part of your team to even show up in the list of developers you can add as a tester. At least Google doesn't get that invasive, this is very ironic off Apple to do. In Google you can just add people to the closed testing distribution group no problem. But Apple? Oh no, they have to be a role on your team first. Just, wow to you, big A.

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              @Tamasg I don't think they do… App store connect allows managing publication etc, I'm sure there are some iOS devs that can explain what the flow looks like for inviting to testflight only.

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                @Tamasg I don't think they do… App store connect allows managing publication etc, I'm sure there are some iOS devs that can explain what the flow looks like for inviting to testflight only.

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                @fireborn @Tamasg Testflite is part of App Store Connect, I remember reading up on it when going through the Expo documentation, can't remember it off top of my head but it definitely mentioned something to do with App Store Connect when doing internal Testflite builds.

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                • T tamasg@mindly.social

                  @alexchapman ah yeah, I'm also wondering the same thing, part of it to me feels like pitch is a bit too high on the iOS version even when compared to Android and Windows or SAPI. But I'm gonna need a few ears to confirm it for sure. The other part I notice is how much VoiceOver splits text bits into smaller chunks as it reads, which gets to be a bit more noticeable especially with how shit Espeak is at single-word speech, which kind of makes certain things reading like the status bar slightly more choppy. It's nothing that can't get used to, and I think further stress-pattern work to try and override Espeak or who knows, a better phonemizer, could solve it later on.

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                  @Tamasg @alexchapman It even sounds a little different on Android, or maybe my NVDA addon is just ololder. the letter f and letter s seem very loud and almost stretched if that's the right word for that.

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                  • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                    @Tamasg @alexchapman It even sounds a little different on Android, or maybe my NVDA addon is just ololder. the letter f and letter s seem very loud and almost stretched if that's the right word for that.

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                    @fireborn @alexchapman aha, there's one answer. For some reason both mobile platforms pass a pitch that's 10 hZ higher, interesting. That's one I'll fix in the next builds for sure.
                    │ NVDA │ slider=50 │ 25.0 + 21.25 * (50 / 12.5) │ 110.0 Hz │ ├───────────────────────┼──────────────────────┼──────────────────────────────┼─────────────┤
                    │ SAPI │ speak_params default │ hardcoded base_pitch = 110.0 │ 110.0 Hz │
                    ├───────────────────────┼──────────────────────┼──────────────────────────────┼─────────────┤
                    │ Android (TTS service) │ pitch=100 (1.0x) │ 120.0 * (100 / 100.0) │ 120.0 Hz │
                    ├───────────────────────┼──────────────────────┼──────────────────────────────┼─────────────┤
                    │ Android (standalone) │ slider=120 Hz │ passed directly │ 120.0 Hz │
                    ├───────────────────────┼──────────────────────┼──────────────────────────────┼─────────────┤
                    │ iOS (host app) │ pitch = 120.0 │ passed directly │ 120.0 Hz │
                    ├───────────────────────┼──────────────────────┼──────────────────────────────┼─────────────┤
                    │ iOS (AU/VoiceOver) │ extractPitch default │ hardcoded 120.0 │ 120.0 Hz │

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                    • alexchapman@tweesecake.socialA alexchapman@tweesecake.social

                      @fireborn @Tamasg Testflite is part of App Store Connect, I remember reading up on it when going through the Expo documentation, can't remember it off top of my head but it definitely mentioned something to do with App Store Connect when doing internal Testflite builds.

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                      @alexchapman @Tamasg It is but you don't have to be on app store connect to have access to testflight. Otherwise apps like Whatsapp could not have a beta program

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