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  3. The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyzM m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyz

    @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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    @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux You can check from https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438/235 if your bank is listed. All my banks work, but that of course don't say anything about your bank

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      @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux You can check from https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438/235 if your bank is listed. All my banks work, but that of course don't say anything about your bank

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      m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyz
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      #110

      @Antti98 @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Thank you! That link helped a lot! ๐Ÿ˜€

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      • m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyzM m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyz

        @Antti98 @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Thank you! That link helped a lot! ๐Ÿ˜€

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        @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux glad to hear! Out of interest was your bank reported to be working?

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        • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

          Thank you for your support!

          bkoehn@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @fdroidorg But I thought โ€œopen always wins.โ€ ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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          • bkoehn@hachyderm.ioB bkoehn@hachyderm.io

            @fdroidorg But I thought โ€œopen always wins.โ€ ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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            fdroidorg@floss.social
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            @bkoehn

            #Google when talking in court against #EpicGames "we are open"

            Google when talking with #FLOSS devs: "not for you"

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            • fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
              @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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              liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net
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              Having to pay a company and send your government id to that company, who will absolutely turn that data over to the government, is not an acceptable way to develop software.

              Especially as that government is actively targeting dissenters and anyone who opposes them.

              Especially as that company is making plans to go into the PC space, creating computers more locked down than Windows.

              Especially as that company already has an 'anti-virus' activated on every Android licensed device by default that flags and prevents these malicious apps.

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              • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                @bkoehn

                #Google when talking in court against #EpicGames "we are open"

                Google when talking with #FLOSS devs: "not for you"

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                @fdroidorg Yeah kind of my point. Your interests and Google's were never the same; they were aligned for a while and now they're not. It's the risk you took when you chose Android.

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                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

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                  pierstoval@mastodon.social
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                  #116

                  @fdroidorg Good to know that Google are keeping their track about "Apple-izing" themselves.

                  They just waited until there were absolutely zero competitor to close the whole thing.

                  Time to degoogleize all mobile OSes ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

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                  • martintheg@mastodon.socialM martintheg@mastodon.social

                    @jay @fdroidorg @marcprux Yes, but all the Tizen products shown are ones that are NOT phones, and are hard to install your own apps, like fridges, televisions, monitors, washing machines.....?

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                    @martintheg @fdroidorg @marcprux I'm hoping Samsung has been keeping TizenOS development active on portable devices in the background. ๐Ÿคž I'm sure Samsung needs to play nice with Google also, to get whatever deals / contracts it can to ship Android with Google services on its devices. I noticed new TizenOS version 10 and a few "what's new" videos when I posted this info yesterday. I need to take a look at what Samsung's been up to regarding TizenOS. I'm sure Samsung has multiple cards to play.

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                    • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

                      Having to pay a company and send your government id to that company, who will absolutely turn that data over to the government, is not an acceptable way to develop software.

                      Especially as that government is actively targeting dissenters and anyone who opposes them.

                      Especially as that company is making plans to go into the PC space, creating computers more locked down than Windows.

                      Especially as that company already has an 'anti-virus' activated on every Android licensed device by default that flags and prevents these malicious apps.

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                      @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux Most open-source apps are already published to Google Play. I use a degoogled phone and this will not affect me in any way. It will absolutely affect people who will have to burn through disposable identities to develop malware.
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                      • fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
                        @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux Most open-source apps are already published to Google Play. I use a degoogled phone and this will not affect me in any way. It will absolutely affect people who will have to burn through disposable identities to develop malware.
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                        #119

                        It will also affect developers who choose to or have to stay anonymous to protect themselves from bad actors like rogue governments, and make it harder to develop software that authorities do not want made, such as emulation software, or adblocking tools and clients, or law enforcement raid watches.

                        Your personal exclusion from these restrictions does not solve the problem for developers, nor the majority of people who use Android who can't, don't know how to, or afford a degoogled device.

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                        • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

                          It will also affect developers who choose to or have to stay anonymous to protect themselves from bad actors like rogue governments, and make it harder to develop software that authorities do not want made, such as emulation software, or adblocking tools and clients, or law enforcement raid watches.

                          Your personal exclusion from these restrictions does not solve the problem for developers, nor the majority of people who use Android who can't, don't know how to, or afford a degoogled device.

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                          And for the spyware and malware that has the widest impact: they will be unaffected, because they publish straight on the Play Store themselves.

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                          • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

                            It will also affect developers who choose to or have to stay anonymous to protect themselves from bad actors like rogue governments, and make it harder to develop software that authorities do not want made, such as emulation software, or adblocking tools and clients, or law enforcement raid watches.

                            Your personal exclusion from these restrictions does not solve the problem for developers, nor the majority of people who use Android who can't, don't know how to, or afford a degoogled device.

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                            @liquidparasyte @fdroidorg @marcprux ???
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                            • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                              Thank you for your support!

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                              @fdroidorg @marcprux
                              This is the reason why i removed some of my apps from Play Store and i only develop with frameworks that allow creating apps that work with linux-first phones like Pinephone

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