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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis.

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  • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.

    grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG omni@masto.dontyou.clickO K greenpete@sunny.gardenG gneilyo@mastodon.onlineG 18 Replies Last reply
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    • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

      There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.

      grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
      grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
      grapheneos@grapheneos.social
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      #2

      Every day, dozens of new accounts join our chat rooms to spread the same fabrications about GrapheneOS including via direct messages.

      On Hacker News, one of the accounts making personal attacks based on fabrications in most threads about GrapheneOS has been doing it for 8 years.

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      • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

        Every day, dozens of new accounts join our chat rooms to spread the same fabrications about GrapheneOS including via direct messages.

        On Hacker News, one of the accounts making personal attacks based on fabrications in most threads about GrapheneOS has been doing it for 8 years.

        grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
        grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
        grapheneos@grapheneos.social
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        Y Combinator has a financial stake in numerous surveillance and exploit development companies. Hacker News is a platform they own and the moderators on it have permitted years of vile harassment towards our team which they'd normally remove if others were targeted.

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        • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

          Y Combinator has a financial stake in numerous surveillance and exploit development companies. Hacker News is a platform they own and the moderators on it have permitted years of vile harassment towards our team which they'd normally remove if others were targeted.

          grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          grapheneos@grapheneos.social
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          Hacker News mods micromanage it enough to repeatedly ask us not to reuse a bit of text across our comments. Meanwhile, they do nothing about disgusting personal attacks and harassment content consistently being spread in threads about GrapheneOS on their heavily moderated site.

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          • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

            Hacker News mods micromanage it enough to repeatedly ask us not to reuse a bit of text across our comments. Meanwhile, they do nothing about disgusting personal attacks and harassment content consistently being spread in threads about GrapheneOS on their heavily moderated site.

            grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            The largest privacy community on Reddit /r/privacy bans any discussion or mentions of GrapheneOS. A bot automatically removes any post mentioning GrapheneOS they'll very actively ban people who evade their filters. The mods of the subreddit misrepresent this as something we want.

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            • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

              The largest privacy community on Reddit /r/privacy bans any discussion or mentions of GrapheneOS. A bot automatically removes any post mentioning GrapheneOS they'll very actively ban people who evade their filters. The mods of the subreddit misrepresent this as something we want.

              grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              Many privacy subreddits have mods who are hostile towards GrapheneOS. We were banned from posting on /r/Android for multiple years. The mod who banned us said our official project account on Reddit was ban evading because they once unjustifiably banned one of our team members.

              grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG neogoth@mastodon.socialN pickadollen@mastodon.socialP parikhparth23@mastodon.socialP 4 Replies Last reply
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              • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                Many privacy subreddits have mods who are hostile towards GrapheneOS. We were banned from posting on /r/Android for multiple years. The mod who banned us said our official project account on Reddit was ban evading because they once unjustifiably banned one of our team members.

                grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                On Wikipedia, a company attacking GrapheneOS project made years of edits to the site pushing false narratives about us. They cited articles based on their own press releases. Other content was made paraphrasing Wikipedia which ended up being cited by it. It continues to this day.

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                • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                  On Wikipedia, a company attacking GrapheneOS project made years of edits to the site pushing false narratives about us. They cited articles based on their own press releases. Other content was made paraphrasing Wikipedia which ended up being cited by it. It continues to this day.

                  grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                  grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Articles about GrapheneOS on most platforms often have comments engaging in baseless personal attacks towards our team, linking to harassment content and making many clearly inaccurate claims about it. We've found chat rooms coordinating this including attacks on the X platform.

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                  • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                    There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.

                    omni@masto.dontyou.clickO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @GrapheneOS well at least I like ya! 😁🙌

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                    • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                      There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.

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                      @GrapheneOS
                      I bet there's some people who gets paid from those attacks.

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                      • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                        There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.

                        greenpete@sunny.gardenG This user is from outside of this forum
                        greenpete@sunny.gardenG This user is from outside of this forum
                        greenpete@sunny.garden
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                        #11

                        @GrapheneOS State sponsored, or something close perhaps.
                        Lets face it, the establishment don't like not having control and power over the people.
                        You were always going to be a target I guess.

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                        • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                          Every day, dozens of new accounts join our chat rooms to spread the same fabrications about GrapheneOS including via direct messages.

                          On Hacker News, one of the accounts making personal attacks based on fabrications in most threads about GrapheneOS has been doing it for 8 years.

                          efialto@mastodon.onlineE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @GrapheneOS someone pays them. Android or Apple

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                          • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                            On Wikipedia, a company attacking GrapheneOS project made years of edits to the site pushing false narratives about us. They cited articles based on their own press releases. Other content was made paraphrasing Wikipedia which ended up being cited by it. It continues to this day.

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                            vleeuwe@mastodon.social
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                            @GrapheneOS nice that you caught a circular reference problem

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                            • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                              Articles about GrapheneOS on most platforms often have comments engaging in baseless personal attacks towards our team, linking to harassment content and making many clearly inaccurate claims about it. We've found chat rooms coordinating this including attacks on the X platform.

                              grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                              grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                              grapheneos@grapheneos.social
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                              Privacy projects are more vulnerable to these attacks because the userbase and supporters largely avoid social media and other platforms where it happens. Many people believe what they read on social media if it isn't countered and it builds echo chambers hostile to GrapheneOS.

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                              • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                                Privacy projects are more vulnerable to these attacks because the userbase and supporters largely avoid social media and other platforms where it happens. Many people believe what they read on social media if it isn't countered and it builds echo chambers hostile to GrapheneOS.

                                grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Many people think these must be state sponsored attacks. However, our experience is these attacks are primarily orchestrated by companies selling dubious products marketed as private and secure. We did get targeted by state sponsored smear campaigns in France and Spain though.

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                                • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                                  The largest privacy community on Reddit /r/privacy bans any discussion or mentions of GrapheneOS. A bot automatically removes any post mentioning GrapheneOS they'll very actively ban people who evade their filters. The mods of the subreddit misrepresent this as something we want.

                                  0bs1d1an@infosec.exchange0 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  0bs1d1an@infosec.exchange
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                                  @GrapheneOS, have you reached out to /r/privacy to discuss this kind of censorship?

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                                  • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                                    Many privacy subreddits have mods who are hostile towards GrapheneOS. We were banned from posting on /r/Android for multiple years. The mod who banned us said our official project account on Reddit was ban evading because they once unjustifiably banned one of our team members.

                                    neogoth@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @GrapheneOS what do you expect? Reddit is full of arrogant mods that think they know everything better and censor everyone who posts something they dont like. I abandoned that site years ago when i was censored because i said something they didn't agree with. I believe they are also partially sponsored by big tech that don't want to loose reputation or money by someone criticising them.

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                                    • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                                      There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.

                                      gneilyo@mastodon.onlineG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @GrapheneOS It’s a sign you’re doing something right and threatening the income of those who profit on that right thing not being done.

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                                      • 0bs1d1an@infosec.exchange0 0bs1d1an@infosec.exchange

                                        @GrapheneOS, have you reached out to /r/privacy to discuss this kind of censorship?

                                        grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @0bs1d1an On Reddit, an account blocking you prevents you from replying not only directly to them but to any of the replies to them. Malicious people were using this to cycle through new accounts blocking hundreds of people to prevent replying. They were heavily maliciously attacking GrapheneOS and our team in /r/privacy and elsewhere. /r/privacy mods were not addressing it, so we kept privately complaining t o them. They were never willing to seriously deal with the abuse of their community.

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                                        • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                                          @0bs1d1an On Reddit, an account blocking you prevents you from replying not only directly to them but to any of the replies to them. Malicious people were using this to cycle through new accounts blocking hundreds of people to prevent replying. They were heavily maliciously attacking GrapheneOS and our team in /r/privacy and elsewhere. /r/privacy mods were not addressing it, so we kept privately complaining t o them. They were never willing to seriously deal with the abuse of their community.

                                          grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                          grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @0bs1d1an Instead, they rewarded the people attacking GrapheneOS by completely banning any discussion of it. It's not permitted to make any post about GrapheneOS or even any comment mentioning it. Even comments indirectly mentioning it to sidestep the rules will be removed if they find them and people get regularly banned for it. They'll check their comment histories and ban them for previously talking about GrapheneOS or participating in our subreddit if they even vaguely allude to GrapheneOS.

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