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An essay on why the Ada programming language was ahead of its time and why its influence is largely unacknowledged.

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  • amoroso@oldbytes.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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    An essay on why the Ada programming language was ahead of its time and why its influence is largely unacknowledged.

    https://www.iqiipi.com/the-quiet-colossus.html

    #ada #retrocomputing

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      An essay on why the Ada programming language was ahead of its time and why its influence is largely unacknowledged.

      https://www.iqiipi.com/the-quiet-colossus.html

      #ada #retrocomputing

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      @amoroso That is a bizarrely long essay to not mention Algol at all.

      Java, Scheme, Smalltalk, C++, Objective-C all learned a LOT from Algol60/68 (the useful parts from 60, idealistic things that don't work from 68).

      Hoping that your compiler will protect you from other packages, in a binary run by the programmer, is obviousy folly. Packages are tinsel locks for politeness.

      Pascal & Modula-2 came out of Algol60, & Ada's the weird government contract version of that conversation.
      #ada #algol

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        @amoroso That is a bizarrely long essay to not mention Algol at all.

        Java, Scheme, Smalltalk, C++, Objective-C all learned a LOT from Algol60/68 (the useful parts from 60, idealistic things that don't work from 68).

        Hoping that your compiler will protect you from other packages, in a binary run by the programmer, is obviousy folly. Packages are tinsel locks for politeness.

        Pascal & Modula-2 came out of Algol60, & Ada's the weird government contract version of that conversation.
        #ada #algol

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        @mdhughes In the essay it's remarkable the absence of Modula-2, the early work on which predated or was contemporary of Ada's.

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          @mdhughes In the essay it's remarkable the absence of Modula-2, the early work on which predated or was contemporary of Ada's.

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          @amoroso @mdhughes Xerox' Mesa would also be an interesting point of view, as it was both an ancestor of Modula and a competitor of what became Ada.

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            @amoroso @mdhughes Xerox' Mesa would also be an interesting point of view, as it was both an ancestor of Modula and a competitor of what became Ada.

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            @amoroso @mdhughes In general, the Algol family had some Game of Thrones like drama (and even more incest).

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              @amoroso @mdhughes In general, the Algol family had some Game of Thrones like drama (and even more incest).

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              @mhd @amoroso Oh, yeah, all the early language designs were catty academic politics at best, but the whole "working out module/class/simulation" thing was extra back-stabby.

              Committees, it turns out, are a bad idea.

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                An essay on why the Ada programming language was ahead of its time and why its influence is largely unacknowledged.

                https://www.iqiipi.com/the-quiet-colossus.html

                #ada #retrocomputing

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                @amoroso Ada is not retrocomputing! πŸ˜†

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                • monospace@floss.socialM monospace@floss.social

                  @amoroso Ada is not retrocomputing! πŸ˜†

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                  @monospace You have a point πŸ˜€ I tagged it that way mostly for the historical context of the essay.

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                  • mdhughes@appdot.netM mdhughes@appdot.net

                    @amoroso That is a bizarrely long essay to not mention Algol at all.

                    Java, Scheme, Smalltalk, C++, Objective-C all learned a LOT from Algol60/68 (the useful parts from 60, idealistic things that don't work from 68).

                    Hoping that your compiler will protect you from other packages, in a binary run by the programmer, is obviousy folly. Packages are tinsel locks for politeness.

                    Pascal & Modula-2 came out of Algol60, & Ada's the weird government contract version of that conversation.
                    #ada #algol

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                    @mdhughes @amoroso Honestly, I think that's a terrible article. Anyone who doesn't already understand how intertwined Ada is with the Wirth languages would come away no wiser

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