I've recently dabbled with #Wine and Winboat, and while it was all pretty fun, my conclusion is still that these solutions really don't help with running Windows programs on #Linux all that much, and don't help with "serious / professional" adoption.

[thelinuxexp@mastodon.social]

I've recently dabbled with #Wine and Winboat, and while it was all pretty fun, my conclusion is still that these solutions really don't help with running Windows programs on #Linux all that much, and don't help with "serious / professional" adoption.

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[immychan@antabaka.me]

@thelinuxEXP I’ve always found that Wine is absolutely excellent for gaming and can run most games these days, but unfortunately the same amount of development hasn’t gone into making it able to run desktop apps, making it extremely hit and miss

[natanox@chaos.social]

@immychan @thelinuxEXP I wonder how much better CrossOver from Codeweavers is in this regard. They seem to focus more on desktop applications.

Of course their advancements eventually move upstream to Wine, but there are a lot of quirks they may take care of which you don't know about in vanilla Wine.

Perhaps we could convince @codeweavers to sponsor Nick at some point for a video?

[passthejoe@snac.bsd.cafe]

@thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social So much office work is moving away from stand-alone applications and into the browser, and that's creating opportunities for Linux.

And even when a company offers what looks like an app for a PC, it's usually a browser app packaged to look like a native app.

MS Office and Adobe Suite are dinosaurs. Nobody's planning new, big-$$$ apps for business that need to be installed on specific PC OSes. Even Microsoft and Adobe know the future is in the browser (and in services).

We're living in a SAAS world, and that where Linux can excel. It's all in the browser.

As a news editor, I use mostly web-based tools. I still run Vim for text editing, and I do use some image editors (mostly gThumb), but I do more and more photo editing with applications that live in the browser.

[crazyeddie@mastodon.social]

@thelinuxEXP The main worry I think is real regarding "betting your livelihood" is the off chance that something about the interaction with wine causes a bug that corrupts your files. This would be a disaster if you're not using proper backup, which points out the solution to the problem and it's something you should be doing anyway because NONE of that software has that level of support. It's literally disclaimed in the EULA.

Other than that: can always install windows again.

[sstendahl@floss.social]

@immychan @thelinuxEXP Part of the problem is that a significant amount of professional software has quite strict licensing checks. For example Microsoft Office would work OK with Wine (at least on Crossover), but it fails on validating the licenses. It's basically the anticheat problem we see with competetive games, but for enterprise software.

[reflex@retrogaming.social]

@thelinuxEXP Man, unfortunately there is just no credible Linux alternative to Capture One, and I take a lot of photos.

[masonicon@mastodon.social]

@thelinuxEXP Good thing FOSS alternatives of those windows softwares that can run natively on Linux exists