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This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

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  • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

    This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

    Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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    (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

    ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @nik ... as in, young people are no longer allowed to just visit the website and download openSuSE? Wut?

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    • malwareminigun@infosec.exchangeM malwareminigun@infosec.exchange

      @nik I’m guessing they don’t want the liability of COPA and similar Acts. 😟

      fuchsiii@oxytodon.comF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @malwareminigun @nik Typical article 8 German GDPR problem. You need explicit parental permission to handle (note the “handle”, not just “save”) PII of ppl under 16 (and the IP address hitting Apache/NGINX counts as a PII, therefore every website is technically 16+ until someone wants to fight this in court).

      nik@toot.teckids.orgN argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA kleisli@mastodon.socialK fionasboots@tech.lgbtF 4 Replies Last reply
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      • fuchsiii@oxytodon.comF fuchsiii@oxytodon.com

        @malwareminigun @nik Typical article 8 German GDPR problem. You need explicit parental permission to handle (note the “handle”, not just “save”) PII of ppl under 16 (and the IP address hitting Apache/NGINX counts as a PII, therefore every website is technically 16+ until someone wants to fight this in court).

        nik@toot.teckids.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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        @fuchsiii @malwareminigun This assessment is almost entirely wrong.

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        • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

          This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

          Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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          (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

          xela@troet.cafeX This user is from outside of this forum
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          @nik what the...

          It's about this page, right? https://en.opensuse.org/Terms_of_site

          This must be a mistake. Or they're totally lost...

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          • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

            This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

            Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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            (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

            syphist@zoner.workS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @nik@toot.teckids.org dafuq. I get the ban for account creation, but it's also far from an actually good idea. The person who picked up Canonical's Unity DE and maintained it was a minor. Such a restriction could prevent people from doing such things.

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            • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

              This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

              Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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              (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

              kaasbaas@social.oevents.co.zaK This user is from outside of this forum
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              @nik wow, that's...over zealous...

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              • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

                Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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                (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

                ruchirasdatta@mathstodon.xyzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                @nik I got my first job programming for AT&T at 14. This ban is ridiculous and outrageous.

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                • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                  This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

                  Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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                  (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

                  ffmancera@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @nik I wonder where this come from, I recently noticed in Fedora too.

                  Not sure if it is new there, but in essence you need to confirm that you are at least 16 years old.

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                  • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                    @fuchsiii @malwareminigun This assessment is almost entirely wrong.

                    argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @nik

                    What exactly do you mean by “wrong”? Are you saying that that is not what the law actually means?

                    @fuchsiii @malwareminigun

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                    • fuchsiii@oxytodon.comF fuchsiii@oxytodon.com

                      @malwareminigun @nik Typical article 8 German GDPR problem. You need explicit parental permission to handle (note the “handle”, not just “save”) PII of ppl under 16 (and the IP address hitting Apache/NGINX counts as a PII, therefore every website is technically 16+ until someone wants to fight this in court).

                      argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @fuchsiii

                      And the EU Commission recently had the audacity to claim that, and I quote, “In the EU, you have the space to speak your mind without having to shrink who you are.”

                      Apparently that flowery little speech doesn't apply to young, eager programmers. 🤦‍♂️

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                      Attached: 1 video Freedom of expression, academic freedom, and creative liberty should never be taken for granted. It's a collective achievement, reflected in your everyday actions: 🔷 Speaking up 🔷 Being respected for your choices 🔷️ Having artistic freedom In the EU, you have the space to speak your mind without having to shrink who you are. Learn more ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/RmRmfc #ProtectWhatMatters

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                      • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                        @nik

                        What exactly do you mean by “wrong”? Are you saying that that is not what the law actually means?

                        @fuchsiii @malwareminigun

                        nik@toot.teckids.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @argv_minus_one @fuchsiii @malwareminigun Yep, that's exactly what I am saying.

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                        • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                          @argv_minus_one @fuchsiii @malwareminigun Yep, that's exactly what I am saying.

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                          @nik

                          Then I certainly hope you're correct, because yikes.

                          @fuchsiii @malwareminigun

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                          • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                            This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

                            Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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                            (lists.opensuse.org)

                            (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

                            adingbatponder@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @nik Lunacy does not begin to describe this lunacy which is mad and bad and dumb. Not sure which is worse to be honest. Any under age user that stops using the site as a result of the tripe warning is likely not going to be into Linux because that requires a f%^& you watch me do it anyway mentality and frankly is it so stupid it is a non rule and makes stupid people look clever in comparison.

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                            • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                              This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

                              Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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                              (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

                              kmichal@fosstodon.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @nikclayton SCNR https://xkcd.com/456

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                              • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                                This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

                                Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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                                (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

                                srslypascal@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @nik

                                The sooner young people learn to ignore nonsensical bullshit regulations the better.

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                                • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                                  This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

                                  Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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                                  (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

                                  tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @nik truly putting the Open in OpenSUSE

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                                  • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                                    @argv_minus_one @fuchsiii @malwareminigun Yep, that's exactly what I am saying.

                                    tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @nik@toot.teckids.org @argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org @fuchsiii@oxytodon.com @malwareminigun@infosec.exchange Do you have any source to back it up? I'm curious what the law says here.

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                                    • srslypascal@chaos.socialS srslypascal@chaos.social

                                      @nik

                                      The sooner young people learn to ignore nonsensical bullshit regulations the better.

                                      nik@toot.teckids.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @srslypascal No. We teach young people to co-design the rules in our community in a way they can voluntarily accept them.

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                                      • fuchsiii@oxytodon.comF fuchsiii@oxytodon.com

                                        @malwareminigun @nik Typical article 8 German GDPR problem. You need explicit parental permission to handle (note the “handle”, not just “save”) PII of ppl under 16 (and the IP address hitting Apache/NGINX counts as a PII, therefore every website is technically 16+ until someone wants to fight this in court).

                                        kleisli@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @fuchsiii if this was true, I'm sure there would be a truck load of lawyers trying to make some money out of it. Maybe there are, but I never heard of it. @malwareminigun @nik

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                                        • kleisli@mastodon.socialK kleisli@mastodon.social

                                          @fuchsiii if this was true, I'm sure there would be a truck load of lawyers trying to make some money out of it. Maybe there are, but I never heard of it. @malwareminigun @nik

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                                          @kleisli @malwareminigun

                                          The explanation is a bit too complex for a Mastodon thread.

                                          Generally, I prefer the person who first put up a claim to prove it. It's also easier to prove something exists than the contrary.

                                          So, @fuchsiii claims there were a law restricting the handling of information from people under 16 years. Show me the law.

                                          Everything else will fall into place from there I think, we can clarify the misconception then.

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