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  3. I guess my fundamental disagreement with the vibe coding folks is that the absolute last thing I think this world needs is even more software

I guess my fundamental disagreement with the vibe coding folks is that the absolute last thing I think this world needs is even more software

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  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    I guess my fundamental disagreement with the vibe coding folks is that the absolute last thing I think this world needs is even more software

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    • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

      I guess my fundamental disagreement with the vibe coding folks is that the absolute last thing I think this world needs is even more software

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      We've spent 30 years putting software into everything, and everything is worse now than it was 30 years ago. I feel like these two facts may somehow be connected

      martyb4@mastodon.socialM acsawdey@fosstodon.orgA zinz@mastodon.socialZ reticuleena@digitalcourage.socialR unlofl@mstdn.socialU 6 Replies Last reply
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      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

        We've spent 30 years putting software into everything, and everything is worse now than it was 30 years ago. I feel like these two facts may somehow be connected

        martyb4@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @jalefkowit The past was better, by far, than this present.

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        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

          We've spent 30 years putting software into everything, and everything is worse now than it was 30 years ago. I feel like these two facts may somehow be connected

          acsawdey@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jalefkowit The problem is generally capitalism introducing unnecessary software.

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          • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

            We've spent 30 years putting software into everything, and everything is worse now than it was 30 years ago. I feel like these two facts may somehow be connected

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            @jalefkowit
            Nah the problem is the DMCA and it's anti circumvention provisions. Which means that software is put everywhere to get those protections and associated rent seeking in as many products as possible.
            Software itself is not making devices bad the associated circumvention laws do.

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            • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

              We've spent 30 years putting software into everything, and everything is worse now than it was 30 years ago. I feel like these two facts may somehow be connected

              reticuleena@digitalcourage.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jalefkowit Just the other day when the car would not play the podcast or any other music or radio anymore without any reason (not the first time) I was thinking of the good old radio cassette combination that never broke. Even the CD player did not have such bugs.
              And don't get me startet on the TV. It has problems every other day. And it's brand new.

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              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                We've spent 30 years putting software into everything, and everything is worse now than it was 30 years ago. I feel like these two facts may somehow be connected

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                @jalefkowit
                "can we make all of this software better?"
                "no, but we can rush development faster and make it worse!"

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                • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                  We've spent 30 years putting software into everything, and everything is worse now than it was 30 years ago. I feel like these two facts may somehow be connected

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                  Is the problem the software itself, or the people who own the software, and their perverse incentives to prioritize profit over all else?

                  Maybe Capitalism was the problem all along O___O

                  I don't think vibe coding will fix that by any means, especially since the LLM providers are part of that perverse profit incentive (on top of the myriad of other issues, of course).

                  I think more open-source/self-hostable software is good -- more propriety closed software is bad.

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                  • reticuleena@digitalcourage.socialR reticuleena@digitalcourage.social

                    @jalefkowit Just the other day when the car would not play the podcast or any other music or radio anymore without any reason (not the first time) I was thinking of the good old radio cassette combination that never broke. Even the CD player did not have such bugs.
                    And don't get me startet on the TV. It has problems every other day. And it's brand new.

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                    @reticuleena @jalefkowit I kind of think that the car with the cassette player might not have started in the -25C weather last weekend, while the 2011 car absolutely did (fortunately)

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                    • va2lam@mastodon.nzV va2lam@mastodon.nz

                      @reticuleena @jalefkowit I kind of think that the car with the cassette player might not have started in the -25C weather last weekend, while the 2011 car absolutely did (fortunately)

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                      @jalefkowit @va2lam The car itself got better of course. But all multimedia stuff got "smarter" which means "lots of stupid features you don't use" and "lots of bugs no one can fix."

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