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  • xerz@soc.masfloss.netX xerz@soc.masfloss.net

    @gullevek @nikitonsky macOS 26 is now using realtime SVG graphics for everything. I presume not a lot of time was spent optimizing. So there's your answer.

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    @xerz @nikitonsky I have the fear it was just vibe coded

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      @nikitonsky Yep. I just grabbed an M4 Mac again so I could go back to Sequoia. I can't do anymore Tahoe at this point. This kinds of crap is everywhere in Tahoe.

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        @nikitonsky Asynchronous lazy everything

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          @nikitonsky @siracusa I’m not a big “What would Steve do?” guy (in part because he implored us not to be), but he would definitely have been the human shield to protect us from Tahoe if that’s what it took. Such a shame.

          Putting all my faith in Ternus & Lemay for a rapid response to the worst of this nonsense.

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            @nikitonsky And people keep asking me why I keep going back to older frameworks (UIKit, Core Data, etc.). You could get real performance while doing amazing things with those frameworks while the modern SwiftUI List slows to a crawl after 100-200 items for mysterious reasons.

            And that was before Liquid Glass.

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            • gullevek@famichiki.jpG gullevek@famichiki.jp

              @xerz @nikitonsky I have the fear it was just vibe coded

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              @gullevek @xerz @nikitonsky Apple always has huge performance regressions when they make sweeping UI changes. Just look back at iOS 7.

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                @nikitonsky The 2007 Seadragon demo was mind blowing, and it went away and never came back.

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                • slyborg@vmst.ioS slyborg@vmst.io

                  @nikitonsky @siracusa Looks like I’m going to be on Sequoia until maybe the M6 is available.

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                  @slyborg @nikitonsky @siracusa Yeah! I'm just worried I'm going to be tricked into upgrading at some point.

                  Sequoia has a lot less options. Did Tahoe get rid of the scrollbar options or is that farther down?

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                  • gullevek@famichiki.jpG gullevek@famichiki.jp

                    @nikitonsky Yeah. Software wise it went all to shit. Can’t put my finger on it but I’d say cost cutting for LLM gains

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                    @gullevek @nikitonsky
                    The decline in software quality began long before LLMs.

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                    • dxzdb@mastodon.socialD dxzdb@mastodon.social

                      @slyborg @nikitonsky @siracusa Yeah! I'm just worried I'm going to be tricked into upgrading at some point.

                      Sequoia has a lot less options. Did Tahoe get rid of the scrollbar options or is that farther down?

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                      @dxzdb @slyborg @nikitonsky @siracusa
                      If you upgrade any of the iWork apps, get ready to be harassed to pay for a new subscription.

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                      • freediverx@mastodon.socialF freediverx@mastodon.social

                        @gullevek @nikitonsky
                        The decline in software quality began long before LLMs.

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                        @freediverx
                        in Apple's case, it was switching to Swift as their application level programmung labguage that probably caused those performance issues.

                        Microsoft's .NET, on the other hand, is solid as a rock. So Windows performace issues are mostly to do with spending 50% or more of every computer's resources on spying on people.

                        @gullevek @nikitonsky
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                          @dxzdb @slyborg @nikitonsky @siracusa
                          If you upgrade any of the iWork apps, get ready to be harassed to pay for a new subscription.

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                          @freediverx @slyborg @nikitonsky @siracusa really? It keeps hounding you AFTER you upgrade them? 😱🤬💀

                          I ran the terminal commands to squelch the nagging on Sequoia and Sonoma. So I'm happy with Pages & Numbers for now.

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                            @freediverx
                            in Apple's case, it was switching to Swift as their application level programmung labguage that probably caused those performance issues.

                            Microsoft's .NET, on the other hand, is solid as a rock. So Windows performace issues are mostly to do with spending 50% or more of every computer's resources on spying on people.

                            @gullevek @nikitonsky
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                            @ramin_hal9001 @gullevek @nikitonsky
                            For me it's not just the bugs or performance issues, but the way their apps all look and feel like Electron apps now. The UI design, usability, search, consistency, navigation are all bad, and on the Mac, nothing follows Mac conventions anymore.

                            I recall when Mac fans would imagine if we had to choose between using Windows on Mac hardware or macOS on PC hardware. The difficult answer was always the software over the hardware. Today though?🤔

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                              Apple in 2007: here’s 400 videos playing at the same time, with interactive search and real-time animations (via https://t.me/ilyabirman_channel/12350)

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                              @nikitonsky It looks impressive but I can see it's really just 40 long looping gifs tiled 10 times onto primitives. It wouldn't be terribly difficult to do this kind of thing on modern hardware. That would require passion and dedication to a craft but I can see that the modern OS is not living it's best life.

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                                @xerz @nikitonsky I have the fear it was just vibe coded

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                                @gullevek @xerz @nikitonsky This interface and SwiftUI both predate widespread LLM usage

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                                  @nikitonsky 😭

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                                    @nikitonsky I’ve the 17 pro iPhone and very frequently I’ll open settings.app and the menu icons will take a second to fill. What the hell.

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                                      @nikitonsky try changing your wallpaper or screensaver. Borderline unusable. Hangs forever.

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                                      • gullevek@famichiki.jpG gullevek@famichiki.jp

                                        @nikitonsky Yeah. Software wise it went all to shit. Can’t put my finger on it but I’d say cost cutting for LLM gains

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                                        @gullevek @nikitonsky it started long before LLMs, I'd blame the misguided incentive structure in the industry, metric-driven development, all that. Combined with teams needing to keep doing something when all their products have been functionally complete for years.

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                                        • L lenora256@mastodon.social

                                          @gullevek @xerz @nikitonsky Apple always has huge performance regressions when they make sweeping UI changes. Just look back at iOS 7.

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                                          @Lenora256 @gullevek @xerz @nikitonsky here's a fresh idea: don't do sweeping UI changes

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