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  • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

    Ganz große Klasse! #39C3
    Rollstuhl-Security – Wenn ein QR-Code alle Schutzmechanismen aushebelt

    Eine IT-Sicherheitsforscherin deckt auf, wie der QR-Code eines Rollstuhls zum Generalschlüssel für alle Komfortfunktionen wird.

    ‚Die IT-Sicherheitsforscherin und Rollstuhlnutzerin Elfy beschäftigte sich aus persönlicher Betroffenheit intensiv mit dem e-motion M25 von Alber. Was sie dabei antrieb, war nicht zuletzt die Preispolitik des Herstellers: Für Funktionen wie das Umschalten des Fahrmodus (99 Euro), ein höheres Geschwindigkeitslimit (99 Euro) oder die Fernbedienung per App (99 Euro) werden saftige Aufpreise fällig; eine spezielle Bluetooth-Fernbedienung kostet sogar bis zu 595 Euro. Elfy wollte wissen, ob diese Komfortfunktionen technisch wirklich abgesichert sind – oder ob der Zugang in Wahrheit viel einfacher ist.‘

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    Eine IT-Sicherheitsforscherin deckt auf, wie der QR-Code eines Rollstuhls zum Generalschlüssel für alle Komfortfunktionen wird.

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    @autonomysolidarity

    Ich habe das vor ein paar Tagen schon gelesen und mich total aufgeregt. Der Rollstuhl ist sowieso schon ganz schön teuer und dann machen die so ein upgrade-Scheiß-Abzocke mit rein, dass nur Wohlhabende das Ding auch richtig nutzen können. Mich regt das echt auf, dass so etwas immer mehr um sich greift.

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    • anikke@bildung.socialA anikke@bildung.social

      @autonomysolidarity

      Ich habe das vor ein paar Tagen schon gelesen und mich total aufgeregt. Der Rollstuhl ist sowieso schon ganz schön teuer und dann machen die so ein upgrade-Scheiß-Abzocke mit rein, dass nur Wohlhabende das Ding auch richtig nutzen können. Mich regt das echt auf, dass so etwas immer mehr um sich greift.

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      Das ging vor ein paar Tagen auch schon mal rum, als @elfy selbst darüber postete.

      @Anikke @autonomysolidarity

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      • anikke@bildung.socialA anikke@bildung.social

        @autonomysolidarity

        Ich habe das vor ein paar Tagen schon gelesen und mich total aufgeregt. Der Rollstuhl ist sowieso schon ganz schön teuer und dann machen die so ein upgrade-Scheiß-Abzocke mit rein, dass nur Wohlhabende das Ding auch richtig nutzen können. Mich regt das echt auf, dass so etwas immer mehr um sich greift.

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        @Anikke @autonomysolidarity ist das sonst der billigste oderwarum kauft das jemand?

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        • telefuzzi@lazysocial.deT telefuzzi@lazysocial.de

          @Anikke @autonomysolidarity ist das sonst der billigste oderwarum kauft das jemand?

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          @telefuzzi @autonomysolidarity

          Der ist wohl sowieso schon nicht sehr günstig.

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          • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

            Ganz große Klasse! #39C3
            Rollstuhl-Security – Wenn ein QR-Code alle Schutzmechanismen aushebelt

            Eine IT-Sicherheitsforscherin deckt auf, wie der QR-Code eines Rollstuhls zum Generalschlüssel für alle Komfortfunktionen wird.

            ‚Die IT-Sicherheitsforscherin und Rollstuhlnutzerin Elfy beschäftigte sich aus persönlicher Betroffenheit intensiv mit dem e-motion M25 von Alber. Was sie dabei antrieb, war nicht zuletzt die Preispolitik des Herstellers: Für Funktionen wie das Umschalten des Fahrmodus (99 Euro), ein höheres Geschwindigkeitslimit (99 Euro) oder die Fernbedienung per App (99 Euro) werden saftige Aufpreise fällig; eine spezielle Bluetooth-Fernbedienung kostet sogar bis zu 595 Euro. Elfy wollte wissen, ob diese Komfortfunktionen technisch wirklich abgesichert sind – oder ob der Zugang in Wahrheit viel einfacher ist.‘

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            39C3: Rollstuhl-Security – Wenn ein QR-Code alle Schutzmechanismen aushebelt

            Eine IT-Sicherheitsforscherin deckt auf, wie der QR-Code eines Rollstuhls zum Generalschlüssel für alle Komfortfunktionen wird.

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            Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

            ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
            The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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            Great 👏 @back2theRoot

            #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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            • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

              Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

              ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
              The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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              Great 👏 @back2theRoot

              #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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              @autonomysolidarity

              Here is the talk directly for anyone whanting to (re-) watch:
              https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-the-heartbreak-machine-nazis-in-the-echo-chamber

              @back2theRoot

              Was there Live but missed the live deletion (as I had to get to an angel shift). Can recommend thoroughly.

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              • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

                Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

                ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
                The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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                A hacker known as Martha Root broke in and deleted three white supremacist websites at the end of a talk during the annual hacker conference Chaos Communication Congress in Germany.

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                Great 👏 @back2theRoot

                #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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                @autonomysolidarity Oi ich kucke das gerade und irgendwie ist's gespoilert jetzt. 🥲 Naja trotzdem weiter schauen... 😆

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                • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

                  Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

                  ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
                  The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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                  Great 👏 @back2theRoot

                  #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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                  @autonomysolidarity @back2theRoot

                  Nice. Now do Palantir.

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                  • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

                    Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

                    ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
                    The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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                    A hacker known as Martha Root broke in and deleted three white supremacist websites at the end of a talk during the annual hacker conference Chaos Communication Congress in Germany.

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                    Great 👏 @back2theRoot

                    #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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                    @autonomysolidarity HELL YEAH, FRIEND! You whup those white supremacists, Martha Root.

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                    • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

                      Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

                      ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
                      The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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                      Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference | TechCrunch

                      A hacker known as Martha Root broke in and deleted three white supremacist websites at the end of a talk during the annual hacker conference Chaos Communication Congress in Germany.

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                      Great 👏 @back2theRoot

                      #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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                      @autonomysolidarity @back2theRoot Un hacktiviste supprime des sites web suprémacistes en direct lors d'une conférence de hackers

                      Un hacktiviste a effacé à distance trois sites web suprémacistes en direct sur scène pendant leur intervention lors d'une conférence de hackers la semaine dernière, et les sites n'ont toujours pas été remis en ligne.
                      Le hacker pseudonyme, qui se fait appeler Martha Root - habillée en Pink Ranger des Power Rangers - a supprimé les serveurs de WhiteDate, WhiteChild et WhiteDeal en temps réel à la fin d'un exposé lors du congrès annuel Chaos Communication à Hambourg, en Allemagne....'

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                      Superbe 👏 @back2theRoot

                      #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HHamburg #Germany

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                      • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

                        Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

                        ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
                        The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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                        Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference | TechCrunch

                        A hacker known as Martha Root broke in and deleted three white supremacist websites at the end of a talk during the annual hacker conference Chaos Communication Congress in Germany.

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                        Great 👏 @back2theRoot

                        #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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                        @autonomysolidarity @back2theRoot

                        “Imagine calling yourselves the ‘master race’ but forgetting to secure your own website — maybe try mastering to host WordPress before world domination,”

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                        • sander@tech.lgbtS sander@tech.lgbt

                          @autonomysolidarity

                          Here is the talk directly for anyone whanting to (re-) watch:
                          https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-the-heartbreak-machine-nazis-in-the-echo-chamber

                          @back2theRoot

                          Was there Live but missed the live deletion (as I had to get to an angel shift). Can recommend thoroughly.

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                          @Sander @autonomysolidarity @back2theRoot Amazing. So good. So very, very good.

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                          • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

                            Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

                            ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
                            The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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                            Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference | TechCrunch

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                            Great 👏 @back2theRoot

                            #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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                            @autonomysolidarity @back2theRoot

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                            • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

                              Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

                              ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
                              The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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                              Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference | TechCrunch

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                              Great 👏 @back2theRoot

                              #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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                              Einfach großartig 👏 @back2theRoot

                              Wie Martha Root als Pink Ranger ein komplettes Neonazi-Netzwerk hackte

                              ‚Es war eine Szene, die selbst für den Chaos Communication Congress außergewöhnlich war. Auf der Bühne: eine Person im pinkfarbenen Power-Ranger-Kostüm. Im Publikum: Tausende IT-Sicherheits-Expert:innen, Hacker:innen und Aktivist:innen aus aller Welt. Was dann folgte, war kein Show-Gag, sondern ein Live-Demonstrationsmoment digitaler Macht. Die unter dem Pseudonym „Martha Root“ bekannte Person, präsentierte öffentlich, wie sie eine rechtsextreme Dating-Plattform kompromittiert, vollständig kopiert und schließlich gelöscht hatte.‘

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                              Pink Ranger beim 39C3 sprengt Nazi-Plattformen. Hackerin „Martha Root“ legt rechtsextreme Netzwerke offen und zerlegt ihre Infrastruktur.

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                              #Ccc #39C3 #Hamburg #Deutschland #Hacking #Sabotage

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                              • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

                                Einfach großartig 👏 @back2theRoot

                                Wie Martha Root als Pink Ranger ein komplettes Neonazi-Netzwerk hackte

                                ‚Es war eine Szene, die selbst für den Chaos Communication Congress außergewöhnlich war. Auf der Bühne: eine Person im pinkfarbenen Power-Ranger-Kostüm. Im Publikum: Tausende IT-Sicherheits-Expert:innen, Hacker:innen und Aktivist:innen aus aller Welt. Was dann folgte, war kein Show-Gag, sondern ein Live-Demonstrationsmoment digitaler Macht. Die unter dem Pseudonym „Martha Root“ bekannte Person, präsentierte öffentlich, wie sie eine rechtsextreme Dating-Plattform kompromittiert, vollständig kopiert und schließlich gelöscht hatte.‘

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                                Wie Martha Root als Pink Ranger ein komplettes Neonazi-Netzwerk hackte - Boah.at

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                                #Ccc #39C3 #Hamburg #Deutschland #Hacking #Sabotage

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                                @autonomysolidarity That definitely takes guts!

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                                • autonomysolidarity@todon.euA autonomysolidarity@todon.eu

                                  Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during hacker conference

                                  ‚A hacktivist remotely wiped three white supremacist websites live onstage during their talk at a hacker conference last week, with the sites yet to return online.
                                  The pseudonymous hacker, who goes by Martha Root — dressed as Pink Ranger from the Power Rangers — deleted the servers of WhiteDate, WhiteChild, and WhiteDeal in real time at the end of a talk at the annual Chaos Communication Congress in Hamburg, Germany….‘

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                                  Great 👏 @back2theRoot

                                  #Ccc #39C3 #FightNazis #Hacking #Tech #Technology #Activism #HH #Hamburg #Germany

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                                  White Leaks

                                  Files and user information from the white supremacist websites WhiteDate (a white supremacist dating site), WhiteChild (a white supremacist site focused on family and ancestry), and WhiteDeal (a white supremacist networking and professional development site).

                                  https://ddosecrets.com/article/whiteleaks
                                  Thanks to @ddosecrets

                                  See also: https://okstupid.lol/

                                  Spread the Word! #FightNazis

                                  The data and findings were first presented at the 39th Chaos Communications Congress.

                                  #Ccc #39C3 #Hacking

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                                    @telefuzzi Oft haben Menschen keine große Wahl, welche Modelle ihnen die Krankenkasse gewährt (oder anderer zuständige Träger).
                                    Oft muss erstmal um Hilfsmittel gekämpft werden, nicht selten vor Gericht - das schaffen viele nicht 😞 Schland ist noch weit von den Vereinbarungen in der UN-BRK entfernt...♿

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                                      @telefuzzi Oft haben Menschen keine große Wahl, welche Modelle ihnen die Krankenkasse gewährt (oder anderer zuständige Träger).
                                      Oft muss erstmal um Hilfsmittel gekämpft werden, nicht selten vor Gericht - das schaffen viele nicht 😞 Schland ist noch weit von den Vereinbarungen in der UN-BRK entfernt...♿

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                                      @GleicheSozialeRechtefuerAlle Dann müsste ja der nicht so billige Hersteller den Kassen gute Rabatte gewähren um überhaupt gewählt zu werden.

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                                        @erikcats "sadder" is not the first word coming to mind when talking about self-appointed fascists. @autonomysolidarity @ddosecrets

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                                          tamay_idk@mastodon.social
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                                          @autonomysolidarity Finde es immer noch schade, dass der Talk kaum technische Inhalte enthält.

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