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@katzenberger I think you rather missed the point here...
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RT @ghidraninja
Simple age check for Linux:
Just have the shell ask the user to check the host IP on first boot.
If they type ifconfig they are old enough, if they type ip addr they deserve to be restricted from their computer

@lproven I trained myself to use ip and its subcommands years ago because they give you access to all the cool networking stuff you can do with linux that people stuck with ifconfig probably don't even know exists... but ss for netstat, that one I truly can't force myself to use
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RT @ghidraninja
Simple age check for Linux:
Just have the shell ask the user to check the host IP on first boot.
If they type ifconfig they are old enough, if they type ip addr they deserve to be restricted from their computer

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@lproven I trained myself to use ip and its subcommands years ago because they give you access to all the cool networking stuff you can do with linux that people stuck with ifconfig probably don't even know exists... but ss for netstat, that one I truly can't force myself to use
@_hic_haec_hoc @lproven OK, now you've gotten me curious, what can ip do that we couldn't before systemd decided to fuck with the basic principals?
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RT @ghidraninja
Simple age check for Linux:
Just have the shell ask the user to check the host IP on first boot.
If they type ifconfig they are old enough, if they type ip addr they deserve to be restricted from their computer

@lproven I've found myself typing
dig +short ip @dns.toys
does this mean I'm banned from polite society ?
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@_hic_haec_hoc @lproven OK, now you've gotten me curious, what can ip do that we couldn't before systemd decided to fuck with the basic principals?
@Fooker @lproven first things that come to mind are network namespaces, policy-based routing, VRFs, tunnels, QoS... and then all the subcommands have a similar syntax which follows the same principles everywhere instead of each one going its own way (like it was with ifconfig, vconfig, brctl, arp and so on) and there are a lot of quality-of-life improvements everywhere (for example I love how you can just copy a line of the output of 'ip r l' and use it as it is with 'ip r d')
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@_hic_haec_hoc @lproven OK, now you've gotten me curious, what can ip do that we couldn't before systemd decided to fuck with the basic principals?
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RT @ghidraninja
Simple age check for Linux:
Just have the shell ask the user to check the host IP on first boot.
If they type ifconfig they are old enough, if they type ip addr they deserve to be restricted from their computer

@lproven how about "list the listening tcp ports"
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@kinghaunst @lproven
or hostname -I -
RT @ghidraninja
Simple age check for Linux:
Just have the shell ask the user to check the host IP on first boot.
If they type ifconfig they are old enough, if they type ip addr they deserve to be restricted from their computer

@lproven
I usually just click around the 3D rendered squares until I find what I'm looking for -
RT @ghidraninja
Simple age check for Linux:
Just have the shell ask the user to check the host IP on first boot.
If they type ifconfig they are old enough, if they type ip addr they deserve to be restricted from their computer

@lproven embrace modernity, use ip after checking uname

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RT @ghidraninja
Simple age check for Linux:
Just have the shell ask the user to check the host IP on first boot.
If they type ifconfig they are old enough, if they type ip addr they deserve to be restricted from their computer

