RT @ghidraninja

[teleclimber@social.tchncs.de]

@lproven ah damn I spent so much time retraining myself to use ip a

[mewsleah@meow.social]

@lproven hey, some of us have had to get used to Void

[danmcd@hostux.social]

@lproven

If first-boot is an installation that hardly seems fair.

Also, any love for `netstat -in` ?

[lproven@social.vivaldi.net]

@davefischer Blimey! One of the Elders of the Internet!

[kinghaunst@sueden.social]

@lproven

What about

$ host $HOSTNAME

?

[lproven@social.vivaldi.net]

@guardeddon I remember when the idea of Demon was being discussed in cix:tenner_a_month.

[katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org]

@lproven

The proper way to handle this under Linux is to wipe the current installation, and to replace it by a distro free from that "verification" crap.

[lproven@social.vivaldi.net]

@katzenberger I think you rather missed the point here...

[mdm@mcnamarii.town]

@lproven Simple personality check for the Internet:

If you got upset about this post instead of chuckling about it like you were supposed to, maybe go meditate

[yala@degrowth.social]

@lproven
I don't know. The RT might certainly have been triggered by the age verification discussion.

Anyway, I started with ifconfig and now use the more modern ip a. The argument in the joke doesn't really work for people who stay up to date.
@katzenberger

[katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org]

@lproven

I'd be more than happy if I did.

#AB1043

[_hic_haec_hoc@fosstodon.org]

@lproven I trained myself to use ip and its subcommands years ago because they give you access to all the cool networking stuff you can do with linux that people stuck with ifconfig probably don't even know exists... but ss for netstat, that one I truly can't force myself to use

[erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social]

@lproven @dtl if they type ipconfig, they are led gently to the door to report to therapy

[fooker@infosec.exchange]

@_hic_haec_hoc @lproven OK, now you've gotten me curious, what can ip do that we couldn't before systemd decided to fuck with the basic principals?

[steely_glint@chaos.social]

@lproven I've found myself typing

dig +short ip @dns.toys

does this mean I'm banned from polite society ?

[_hic_haec_hoc@fosstodon.org]

@Fooker @lproven first things that come to mind are network namespaces, policy-based routing, VRFs, tunnels, QoS... and then all the subcommands have a similar syntax which follows the same principles everywhere instead of each one going its own way (like it was with ifconfig, vconfig, brctl, arp and so on) and there are a lot of quality-of-life improvements everywhere (for example I love how you can just copy a line of the output of 'ip r l' and use it as it is with 'ip r d')

[_hic_haec_hoc@fosstodon.org]

@Fooker @lproven also what does systemd have to to with this? iproute2 is developed by different people and predates it by a decade

[hp@mastodon.tmm.cx]

@lproven how about "list the listening tcp ports"

[peribotsarah@babka.social]

@kinghaunst @lproven
or hostname -I

[saucerlost@mastodon.social]

@lproven
I usually just click around the 3D rendered squares until I find what I'm looking for