An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies.
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@Kraemer_HB
No, not normally for endconsumers. We go to a supermarket and are all offered the exact same price. Similarly, phone and electricity companies publish their rate sheets and basically everyone gets the same price. Same goes for restaurants, bars, cafes.@utrenkner @Kraemer_HB @david_chisnall @coba @CStamp Supermarkets do it indirectly based upon
- Location
- Size of store (were you willing to go to a big store for lower pricing)
- Whether you ordered online and urgency
- What 'offers' they gave you to analyse your price sensitivity
- Totally artificial product segmentation "value" "taste the difference" secret company owned brands etc
- Whether you've sold your privacy with a store cardSegmentation is the same thing just not so finessed
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@Kraemer_HB
Coupons, bonus programs etc. are not directly connected to my "willingness to pay".@coba mentioned "apple used to be more expensive because people buying apple products have more money." And this is how I understood this discussion: Should the company be allowed to differentiate the price based on the (perceived) willingness to pay of an individual.
@utrenkner @Kraemer_HB @david_chisnall @coba @CStamp Apple prices are higher because people who buy Apple products are willing to spend more money to appear rich, and they have to be set at a certain value to keep that perception.
Rich people generally don't buy fashion brands because they have nothing to prove.
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@david_chisnall
Furthermore, I do not agree that price discrimination is bad per se ("predatory").E.g. if you have only 10 seats left for a certain train connection, the uniform price per seat might be 150 EUR. For the train company it may be financially beneficial to sell 8 tickets at 150 and to keep two tickets unsold.
But they might have fulfilled more people's transportation needs by selling the remaining two tickets to someone who would afford only 100 EUR.
@utrenkner @david_chisnall @Kraemer_HB @coba @CStamp Unfortunately in the UK we now have housebuilders essentially playing this same game with housebuilding - creating artificial massive demand by banking land not building on it so that they can sell awful houses on postage stamp lots at massive prices.
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@utrenkner @Kraemer_HB @david_chisnall @coba @CStamp Apple prices are higher because people who buy Apple products are willing to spend more money to appear rich, and they have to be set at a certain value to keep that perception.
Rich people generally don't buy fashion brands because they have nothing to prove.
@etchedpixels Sometimes people buy Apple products because it’s what works best for them. It doesn’t mean they throw money away on everything. @utrenkner @Kraemer_HB @david_chisnall @coba
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@etchedpixels Sometimes people buy Apple products because it’s what works best for them. It doesn’t mean they throw money away on everything. @utrenkner @Kraemer_HB @david_chisnall @coba
@CStamp @utrenkner @Kraemer_HB @david_chisnall @coba Certainly also true (and from a marketing perspective 'so I look richer' is also working best form them if that's what they want.
However if you look at the demographics of Apple users in most countries it's very much a fashion brand that happens to sell phones.
It's also (in part because of the money it makes from that) also probably the leader in accessibility and some other areas.
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@CStamp @utrenkner @Kraemer_HB @david_chisnall @coba Certainly also true (and from a marketing perspective 'so I look richer' is also working best form them if that's what they want.
However if you look at the demographics of Apple users in most countries it's very much a fashion brand that happens to sell phones.
It's also (in part because of the money it makes from that) also probably the leader in accessibility and some other areas.
@etchedpixels @CStamp @utrenkner @Kraemer_HB @david_chisnall
from ebay research, they found two markets.
one of the smart seller, someone who made the most profit by finding the highest price most people would pay.and one of the smart buyer, someone who saved on the price by looking for spelling errors in listings, coupons, special deals and timings.
I would expect similar findings in other areas.
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@etchedpixels @CStamp @utrenkner @Kraemer_HB @david_chisnall
from ebay research, they found two markets.
one of the smart seller, someone who made the most profit by finding the highest price most people would pay.and one of the smart buyer, someone who saved on the price by looking for spelling errors in listings, coupons, special deals and timings.
I would expect similar findings in other areas.
@coba @etchedpixels @CStamp @utrenkner @Kraemer_HB
It was a sad day when eBay introduced spelling correction into their searches. My Duel Processor Pentium 3 was very cheap because I was the only person who found the listing.
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@kkarhan it's almost like...regulations are good!?
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@kkarhan it's almost like...regulations are good!?
@witton their account is now suspended
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@witton their account is now suspended
what did they say?@bazkie oh weird, whose account is suspended, I can still see the op?
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@bazkie oh weird, whose account is suspended, I can still see the op?
@witton kkarhan! huh, for me it says account suspended
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@witton kkarhan! huh, for me it says account suspended
maybe only my instance has blocked them?@bazkie oh yeah that might be it, they just said I'm glad this shite is illegal in the EU!
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@bazkie oh yeah that might be it, they just said I'm glad this shite is illegal in the EU!
@witton thanks! but I also can't see which shite was that about?
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@witton thanks! but I also can't see which shite was that about?
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@witton thanks!!
ah lol, that is indeed super anti consumer stuff that generally doesn't fly in the EU.
god I love regulations
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An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.
@CStamp you can also get it to generate different prices with different IP addresses and computers. It truly is miserable.
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@CStamp you can also get it to generate different prices with different IP addresses and computers. It truly is miserable.
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An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.
A person saved $500 by booking her tickets via a library computer. (A page updated so I lost the link.)
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A person saved $500 by booking her tickets via a library computer. (A page updated so I lost the link.)
@CStamp seems sketchy to me to be doing financial stuff on a public computer.
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@CStamp seems sketchy to me to be doing financial stuff on a public computer.
@steveriggins There is that. She did mention that this was even using her VPN. Anyway...just interesting.
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