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I want this but as a Linux distribution.

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

    I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

    ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA mcc@mastodon.socialM ftranschel@norden.socialF brett_e_carlock@mastodon.onlineB moin@gruene.socialM 14 Replies Last reply
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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

      I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

      ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mcc what do you mean? in the Alpine sphere, @postmarketOS already adopted an anti-AI policy, which will probably be adopted by Alpine too.

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

        I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

        mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

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        glyph@mastodon.socialG ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI itamarst@hachyderm.ioI lingmops@topspicy.socialL jcnotwit@mastodon.socialJ 24 Replies Last reply
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        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

          RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

          I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

          ftranschel@norden.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          RE: https://mastodon.social/@knoppix95/116104645693904284

          @mcc Have you seen https://norden.social/@knoppix95@mastodon.social/116104645844598267 and alike?

          I think apart from Mozilla, most projects are on board to fight or at least block AI.

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          • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

            @mcc what do you mean? in the Alpine sphere, @postmarketOS already adopted an anti-AI policy, which will probably be adopted by Alpine too.

            mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ariadne I am, in a flippant and general way, saying I want to eradicate all code with "AI code assistant" contributions from my computer and VPSes, but I do not currently know a way to do so. I keep having programs I previously installed add the poison after the fact without public notice. https://mastodon.social/@mcc/116110912928005524

            Perhaps in future I will have to use Alpine Linux if that's how I get my code audited for no "AI" contributions.

            mary@chaos.socialM luana@wetdry.worldL ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA 3 Replies Last reply
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            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

              My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

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              glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mcc the double (triple?) entendre of "random code generator" here is really upsetting

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              • ftranschel@norden.socialF ftranschel@norden.social

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@knoppix95/116104645693904284

                @mcc Have you seen https://norden.social/@knoppix95@mastodon.social/116104645844598267 and alike?

                I think apart from Mozilla, most projects are on board to fight or at least block AI.

                mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @ftranschel "I can get LLM corruption out of all the software in my computer except my web browser and password manager", in addition to being at this point afaik still aspirational, is kinda… that's not a good outcome. The web browser and password manager have extreme permissions and extreme capacity to do harm.

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                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                  My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

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                  ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @mcc yeah. shit.

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                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                    @ftranschel "I can get LLM corruption out of all the software in my computer except my web browser and password manager", in addition to being at this point afaik still aspirational, is kinda… that's not a good outcome. The web browser and password manager have extreme permissions and extreme capacity to do harm.

                    mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @ftranschel In addition, I have committed a tremendous error which is now coming back to bite me: I installed software written by BlueSky PBC

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                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                      My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

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                      itamarst@hachyderm.ioI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @mcc 1Password says "We want team members at all levels to take the approach of actively learning AI best practices, identifying opportunities to apply AI in meaningful ways, and driving innovative solutions in their daily work. Embracing the future of AI isn't just encouraged at 1Password—it's an essential part of how we will be successful at 1Password."

                      Pretty upset about KeepassXC on a personal level.

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                      • itamarst@hachyderm.ioI itamarst@hachyderm.io

                        @mcc 1Password says "We want team members at all levels to take the approach of actively learning AI best practices, identifying opportunities to apply AI in meaningful ways, and driving innovative solutions in their daily work. Embracing the future of AI isn't just encouraged at 1Password—it's an essential part of how we will be successful at 1Password."

                        Pretty upset about KeepassXC on a personal level.

                        mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @itamarst Well, there is no universe where I would consider using 1password, but I guess that's still good to know

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          @itamarst Well, there is no universe where I would consider using 1password, but I guess that's still good to know

                          glyph@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mcc @itamarst it's a solidarity building exercise, now we can all be upset together

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                          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                            My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

                            Internal server error · GitHub

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                            @mcc …shit

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                            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                              @mcc @itamarst it's a solidarity building exercise, now we can all be upset together

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                              @mcc @itamarst this is a bit tangential to the whole thing but that phrasing bothers me a LOT. "an essential part" — is it? is it "essential?" where was it five years ago? and three years from now, when everyone, even the most braindead useless dead-weight MBA executive, finally realizes that it doesn't fucking work at all, will it still be "essential" then? or is the plan to stop being successful?

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

                                Internal server error · GitHub

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                                jcnotwit@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @mcc Yeah, KeePassXC going this route really hurt. I'm probably going to migrate back to a text file encrypted with gnupg for basic password management, but I have no idea what I'm going to use for one-time passcodes.

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                                • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                  @mcc @itamarst this is a bit tangential to the whole thing but that phrasing bothers me a LOT. "an essential part" — is it? is it "essential?" where was it five years ago? and three years from now, when everyone, even the most braindead useless dead-weight MBA executive, finally realizes that it doesn't fucking work at all, will it still be "essential" then? or is the plan to stop being successful?

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                                  @mcc @itamarst obviously this bothers me because it's a common trope at this point

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                                  • lingmops@topspicy.socialL lingmops@topspicy.social

                                    @mcc …shit

                                    wideeyedcurious@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Lingmops @mcc I’m beginning to feel as if I’m gonna need to head back to just saving my pswds in a text file on my computer again. 🫤

                                    asymmetricblue@mastodon.socialA csolisr@hub.azkware.netC mozziediver@mastodon.socialM 3 Replies Last reply
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                                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                      @mcc @itamarst this is a bit tangential to the whole thing but that phrasing bothers me a LOT. "an essential part" — is it? is it "essential?" where was it five years ago? and three years from now, when everyone, even the most braindead useless dead-weight MBA executive, finally realizes that it doesn't fucking work at all, will it still be "essential" then? or is the plan to stop being successful?

                                      mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @glyph @itamarst i'm assuming they'll go directly to "ah, we're already using it, so we can't back it out now" even in orgs where the primary driver of it being used was executive mandates that each employee use a certain number of AI tokens per month

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                                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                        @ariadne I am, in a flippant and general way, saying I want to eradicate all code with "AI code assistant" contributions from my computer and VPSes, but I do not currently know a way to do so. I keep having programs I previously installed add the poison after the fact without public notice. https://mastodon.social/@mcc/116110912928005524

                                        Perhaps in future I will have to use Alpine Linux if that's how I get my code audited for no "AI" contributions.

                                        mary@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @mcc @ariadne I have the same feeling, if something I use start accepting AI code assistant contributions, I am considering it the same way as any proprietary software.

                                        On the subject of Bitwarden, it seems that Vaultwarden isn't accepting any AI contributions so far (would need to dig more into issues/PRs to be 100% sure), so I will likely fork bitwarden client or make my own client... 🙃

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                                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                          My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

                                          Internal server error · GitHub

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                                          @mcc I admit I don't know the KeePass ecosystem terribly well, but does this go "up the chain" to regular KeePass 2.x or is it just XC?

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