The message from Europeans is clear: children deserve a digital world where they can grow up free, safe and protected.

[usernomnomnom@mastodon.social]

@EUCommission @Numerfolt @onepict asking children and adults to identify themselves online isn't to hold tech companies responsible. Let's not implement this until the app uses ZKPs and has been thoroughly tested!

[tsenov@mastodon.online]

@EUCommission Are you trying to sell us mass surveillance again?

[usernomnomnom@mastodon.social]

@ASardinianAbroad @theloopfarm @EUCommission Why the ad hominem? Do you also want the state to ban all children from dangerous sports like bmx or horseback riding?

[maddiem4@raphus.social]

@onepict @EUCommission it is obvious to most people, even if this particular phrasing is mine, that you cannot "big tech companies collecting PII" your way out of a "big tech companies collecting PII" problem.

The only real solution is for these companies to know less about us, and critically, to not know who is of age. Until you're ready to treat that as a core requirement to build the rest of your online privacy policy around, you're not taking the problem of surveillance capitalism seriously.

[asardinianabroad@mastodon.social]

@usernomnomnom @theloopfarm @EUCommission absolutely different things. My god

[asardinianabroad@mastodon.social]

@theloopfarm @EUCommission not all parents do that for their children, that's why I welcome this action from the EU

[xsterbeprozessx@mastodon.social]

@EUCommission Aber mit Einführung einer verpflichtenden Altersverifikation wird man das Problem nicht lösen, auch nicht mit einer Chatkontrolle, wenn man die Kinderschützen möchte würde man die schädlichen Algos bekämpfen, würde sichere soziale Netzwerke etablieren usw. und ganz wichtig man würde Geld in die Infrastruktur für Kinder stecken.

[onepict@chaos.social]

@MaddieM4 @EUCommission Well said Maddie.

[gonzalo@neopaquita.es]

@EUCommission children are massively protected when providers are clean. Data mining, addictive design, fake information, hallucinated answers and trends created by generative IA. Start from there. Do not sugarcoat the seriousness of this topic by bringing a wrong solution such as age verification, please.

[hidikem@piaille.fr]

@EUCommission and you immediatly ban them from internet to sell your "age verification" surveillance tool for palantir.

Traitor

[the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com]

@ASardinianAbroad @theloopfarm @EUCommission A lovely argumentational faul whether intentional or not.

Most don't have issue with making things safer, they have issues with the instruments achieving this.

Would you be willing to be "safe" if it would consist of curfews, movement restrictions, facial recognition (even on toilets - we can't risk anything and vacation permits for vacations in foreign countries?

There are better instruments, for example actually parenting your children.

[hidikem@piaille.fr]

@EUCommission @gnemmi yeah you old them accountable, by letting google take the control of the web with their last reCAPTCHA bullshit, and do nothing against their android lock down.

they have bough you traitor

[gnemmi@mastodon.sdf.org]

@EUCommission excellent article!. I know you have what it takes to solve the issues at stake.

But, given Meta's ineffective and systematic failure to enforce their self imposed restrictions to prevent underage citizens from exposure to age-inappropriate experiences, wouldn't it be time to start thinking about taking away their right to do so and begin to impose them legislated planned restrictions in accordance to the law of the state instead of shifting the burden on the citizen's shoulders?

[the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com]

@proscience @penguinrebellion @EUCommission

This is quite too extreme. If at most, I would blame this on a good old corruption, (edit) but most likely this https://mstdn.social/@samueljohnson/116562301541092022 (/edit)
Also, the EC is in no way far-right but rather left-leaning.

[lijepasam@social.vivaldi.net]

@EUCommission
As an adult, I also want to feel safe and protected from harmful content, cyberbullying, and addictive online designs.

[the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com]

@elricofmelnibone @EUCommission

I mean the metric is most likely true.

If you read closely it reads
"92% of Europeans say children’s protection online is high priority"
but there is no mention by which instrument. Whether by education or ID checking.

So it may be misleading at best.
On the other hand, EC doesn't suggest the instrument in this message either.

[theloopfarm@mastodon.social]

@ASardinianAbroad @EUCommission Because most parents are too lazy to keep their kids safe therefore everyone else's kids have to be made less safe by handing over their personal information to some tech bro in a massive corporation?

Come on. That's the great idea? The best they could come up with?

How about just educating parents and giving them local tools to protect their kids?

[gnemmi@mastodon.sdf.org]

@lijepasam absolutely agree. Be it to a higher or lesser degree: we all do. We deserve the right to be protected from harmful behavior, commercial practices and business models. Corporations are not human beings, they are just a juridical fiction. We, in contrast, are real people that deserve so much more protection by the law of the State we create to keep us safe from abusive practices and the imperium of the law of the strongest.

@EUCommission

[rudi@tyrol.social]

@EUCommission yes, protecting children is important indeed. but why are the EU and so many governments using this as a cover up for destroying anonymity, disturbing privacy, in the end surveilling their citizens?
the best protection for children is controlling the platforms, not controlling the people.

[theloopfarm@mastodon.social]

@ASardinianAbroad @usernomnomnom @EUCommission He's right. You attacked me and misrepresented my views.

You should say sorry.