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Thinking about this and I would love some questions answered by journalists who see this:

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    RE: https://infosec.exchange/@mttaggart/116065340523529645

    Thinking about this, and I would love some questions answered by journalists who see this:

    1. Is it common these days for stories to publish without editorial review?
    2. During editorial review, would made-up quotes from a cited source be caught?
    3. Do you see any difference between using LLMs to create a story (and hallucinate quotes) and just making them up yourself?
    4. If you had been caught doing this, what would happen next?
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    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

      RE: https://infosec.exchange/@mttaggart/116065340523529645

      Thinking about this, and I would love some questions answered by journalists who see this:

      1. Is it common these days for stories to publish without editorial review?
      2. During editorial review, would made-up quotes from a cited source be caught?
      3. Do you see any difference between using LLMs to create a story (and hallucinate quotes) and just making them up yourself?
      4. If you had been caught doing this, what would happen next?
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      @mttaggart really hoping to see some transparency from ARS on this because what a cluster!

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      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

        RE: https://infosec.exchange/@mttaggart/116065340523529645

        Thinking about this, and I would love some questions answered by journalists who see this:

        1. Is it common these days for stories to publish without editorial review?
        2. During editorial review, would made-up quotes from a cited source be caught?
        3. Do you see any difference between using LLMs to create a story (and hallucinate quotes) and just making them up yourself?
        4. If you had been caught doing this, what would happen next?
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        @mttaggart as much as i thoroughly detest every link in the chain that made this Ars article possible--from the asshat who made the agent which submitted the PR to the asshats at Ars--question 3 in particular still made me gasp involuntarily. It's such a great line of questioning. Reframing AI hallucinations like this sometimes feels like the only way to make fence-sitters come down. "If you had a coworker who was completely wrong 10% of the time when you asked them a question... would you ask them questions anymore?" has been how I've gotten through to a few people in my life.

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