"The practical consequences of an unexamined inner life at scale are not theoretical.
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"The practical consequences of an unexamined inner life at scale are not theoretical. The social media platforms built by people who believed behavioral data was a reliable substitute for understanding human psychology produced a decade of engagement metrics while user wellbeing declined and our entire social order decayed. The engineers who built these systems weren't malicious; they were optimizing for things they could measure, because they'd implicitly accepted the view that measurable outputs were a sufficient model of human flourishing. Goodhart's Law exacted its toll: the measure became the target, and the target was not what anyone would have chosen if they'd been forced to actually specify what they were aiming for."--JA Westenberg https://www.joanwestenberg.com/marc-andreessen-is-wrong-about-introspection/
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"The practical consequences of an unexamined inner life at scale are not theoretical. The social media platforms built by people who believed behavioral data was a reliable substitute for understanding human psychology produced a decade of engagement metrics while user wellbeing declined and our entire social order decayed. The engineers who built these systems weren't malicious; they were optimizing for things they could measure, because they'd implicitly accepted the view that measurable outputs were a sufficient model of human flourishing. Goodhart's Law exacted its toll: the measure became the target, and the target was not what anyone would have chosen if they'd been forced to actually specify what they were aiming for."--JA Westenberg https://www.joanwestenberg.com/marc-andreessen-is-wrong-about-introspection/
@mralancooper I kind of wonder if Marc purposefully said something really stupid and obviously wrong just to get people talking about him. You know, like people do on Reddit to get attention.
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@mralancooper I kind of wonder if Marc purposefully said something really stupid and obviously wrong just to get people talking about him. You know, like people do on Reddit to get attention.
@Netraven I doubt it. letting someone have a few billion dollars is like drowning them in whipped cream: They become detached from reality and lose sight of everything. And thank you for inspiring my "Epstein Class" hot take.
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@Netraven I doubt it. letting someone have a few billion dollars is like drowning them in whipped cream: They become detached from reality and lose sight of everything. And thank you for inspiring my "Epstein Class" hot take.
@mralancooper yeah, you're probably right, but my how word, look how popular a guy I heard of once before got. Was he always this popular in 'certain circles'?
It's a shame really, I wish I could psychoanalyze every rich person. I think they genuinely have a story to tell that they are prevented from telling because they're trapped within their own frame which has become disconnected from reality. We could actually learn something from them then, perhaps.
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@mralancooper yeah, you're probably right, but my how word, look how popular a guy I heard of once before got. Was he always this popular in 'certain circles'?
It's a shame really, I wish I could psychoanalyze every rich person. I think they genuinely have a story to tell that they are prevented from telling because they're trapped within their own frame which has become disconnected from reality. We could actually learn something from them then, perhaps.
@Netraven "Notorious" is a degenerate form of "popular."
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"The practical consequences of an unexamined inner life at scale are not theoretical. The social media platforms built by people who believed behavioral data was a reliable substitute for understanding human psychology produced a decade of engagement metrics while user wellbeing declined and our entire social order decayed. The engineers who built these systems weren't malicious; they were optimizing for things they could measure, because they'd implicitly accepted the view that measurable outputs were a sufficient model of human flourishing. Goodhart's Law exacted its toll: the measure became the target, and the target was not what anyone would have chosen if they'd been forced to actually specify what they were aiming for."--JA Westenberg https://www.joanwestenberg.com/marc-andreessen-is-wrong-about-introspection/
I think the callout to the Stoics early in the essay is incredibly important. If you want to understand both the value and the importance of introspection in the process of being human you can do far worse than study Stoicism.
But, further, I'm not certain everyone is truly conscious. This is not a new idea, but I've come to believe it. We live in a world where many are essentially asleep; reactive. Others are half-awake; dreaming.
It explains much.
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"The practical consequences of an unexamined inner life at scale are not theoretical. The social media platforms built by people who believed behavioral data was a reliable substitute for understanding human psychology produced a decade of engagement metrics while user wellbeing declined and our entire social order decayed. The engineers who built these systems weren't malicious; they were optimizing for things they could measure, because they'd implicitly accepted the view that measurable outputs were a sufficient model of human flourishing. Goodhart's Law exacted its toll: the measure became the target, and the target was not what anyone would have chosen if they'd been forced to actually specify what they were aiming for."--JA Westenberg https://www.joanwestenberg.com/marc-andreessen-is-wrong-about-introspection/
"Marc Andreeson is wrong" would also have been an accurate headline.
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