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Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days.

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

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    @mcc
    You'll pay this a premium+ price, or more.

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    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

      @mcc @gnomon knows.

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      @mhoye @mcc you'll get better value for money by buying an internal 3.5" WD mechanical drive and a cheap dock, but that USB drive is fine. Nothing wrong with it.

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      • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

        @mcc If the seller is Amazon, no, you should be fine.

        If Amazon is just shipping from their warehouse, vendors have managed to get fakes in there in the past.

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        @ratsnakegames @mcc it's an extra $20 but it might be worth buying it directly from WD

        https://www.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/portable-drives/wd-elements-portable-usb-3-0-hdd?sku=WDBU6Y0050BBK-WESN

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        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

          @CliftonR hm interesting, that will require an enclosure though I guess

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          @mcc

          Now I see you're thinking about those portable drive-in-a-box things, I would not trust any brand of those. I've seen too many, of many different brands, abruptly die on people.

          My wife has a WD Passport from & for her job, and that's been doing OK but I still wouldn't trust it.

          On my desktop computer I use one of the USB-3 to SATA adapter thingies that you can plug any SATA drive into and have it show up.

          If you want to carry it around, then ya, you have to figure out an enclosure.

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          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

            Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

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            @mcc Not sure if relevant to an external hdd you'd buy in 2026, but I have had an internal 5TB WD drive running 24/7 for uh, I think it's been 16 years now. So yeah, decent quality there.

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            • cliftonr@wandering.shopC cliftonr@wandering.shop

              @mcc

              Now I see you're thinking about those portable drive-in-a-box things, I would not trust any brand of those. I've seen too many, of many different brands, abruptly die on people.

              My wife has a WD Passport from & for her job, and that's been doing OK but I still wouldn't trust it.

              On my desktop computer I use one of the USB-3 to SATA adapter thingies that you can plug any SATA drive into and have it show up.

              If you want to carry it around, then ya, you have to figure out an enclosure.

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              @mcc

              This, specifically:

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              • kimiko_0@wetdry.worldK kimiko_0@wetdry.world

                @mcc Not sure if relevant to an external hdd you'd buy in 2026, but I have had an internal 5TB WD drive running 24/7 for uh, I think it's been 16 years now. So yeah, decent quality there.

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                @Kimiko_0 is the quality level of a 2010 WD drive necessarily equal to the quality level of a 2026 WD drive?

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                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                  @Kimiko_0 is the quality level of a 2010 WD drive necessarily equal to the quality level of a 2026 WD drive?

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                  @mcc Considering capitalism, probably not necessarily. That's why I said 'not sure if relevant'. If it came to picking WD or another brand though, I'd pick WD based on my own experience, is what I meant to convey.

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                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                    @darkling if i am looking at a specific WD drive, is there a way of finding out if it's one with a dodgy firmware?

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                    @mcc @darkling
                    Durability wise any of the big brands are fine. However the intended use case for different SKUs is gonna matter quite a bit for getting reliablily/performance.

                    These external drives are tricky because they don't specify what actual hard drive is in there. Sometimes they put some decent drives in there for a lower price than internal and people would shuck them, but it's the exception not the rule.

                    IMO if you just want cheap mass storage and don't care about the performance (the use case these drives are targeting (say it's to store media/backup)) then just look at GB/$ and pick the cheapest. Otherwise, buy a known quality internal drive and put it in an enclosure.
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                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                      Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

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                      @mcc@mastodon.social Don't buy portable HDDs. They're mostly SMR and prone to damage.

                      Get a Purple (surveillance), Red Pro (NAS), Black (performance) or Gold (datacenter, but very pricey, only if you've got the money) if you're going for WD drives. Get a decent enclosure (there are a lot of cheap but unstable enclosure on the market), too.
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                      • orca@nya.oneO orca@nya.one
                        @mcc@mastodon.social Don't buy portable HDDs. They're mostly SMR and prone to damage.

                        Get a Purple (surveillance), Red Pro (NAS), Black (performance) or Gold (datacenter, but very pricey, only if you've got the money) if you're going for WD drives. Get a decent enclosure (there are a lot of cheap but unstable enclosure on the market), too.
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                        @Orca @mcc

                        I would remind everyone that WD screwed every customer with the SMR debacle not long ago. They flat out, lied about their components, and rendered NAS devices useless for those expecting ultra-reliable hardware.

                        My experience with WD externals, ala 'Passport' and 'MyBook', is that they struggle to stay connected and fluctuate wildly in transfer speeds.

                        I switched over to Seagate IronWolfe, or at least Barracuda for desktops, and EXO or Helium filled.

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                        The Cost Per Gigabyte of Hard Drives Over Time

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                        • lumiworx@mastodon.socialL lumiworx@mastodon.social

                          @Orca @mcc

                          I would remind everyone that WD screwed every customer with the SMR debacle not long ago. They flat out, lied about their components, and rendered NAS devices useless for those expecting ultra-reliable hardware.

                          My experience with WD externals, ala 'Passport' and 'MyBook', is that they struggle to stay connected and fluctuate wildly in transfer speeds.

                          I switched over to Seagate IronWolfe, or at least Barracuda for desktops, and EXO or Helium filled.

                          Link Preview Image
                          The Cost Per Gigabyte of Hard Drives Over Time

                          For hard drive prices, the race to zero is over: nobody won. As you’ll see, the hard drive pricing curve has flattened out.

                          favicon

                          Backblaze Blog | Cloud Storage & Cloud Backup (www.backblaze.com)

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                          @Orca @mcc

                          I think in the long run, it's better for me to get the drive I want as an internal and buy an enclosure to fit it for external use. USB 3.1 if possible, and USB-C if it's practical.

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                          • lumiworx@mastodon.socialL lumiworx@mastodon.social

                            @Orca @mcc

                            I would remind everyone that WD screwed every customer with the SMR debacle not long ago. They flat out, lied about their components, and rendered NAS devices useless for those expecting ultra-reliable hardware.

                            My experience with WD externals, ala 'Passport' and 'MyBook', is that they struggle to stay connected and fluctuate wildly in transfer speeds.

                            I switched over to Seagate IronWolfe, or at least Barracuda for desktops, and EXO or Helium filled.

                            Link Preview Image
                            The Cost Per Gigabyte of Hard Drives Over Time

                            For hard drive prices, the race to zero is over: nobody won. As you’ll see, the hard drive pricing curve has flattened out.

                            favicon

                            Backblaze Blog | Cloud Storage & Cloud Backup (www.backblaze.com)

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                            @lumiworx@mastodon.social @mcc@mastodon.social
                            Yeah that's why I said "Red Pro", not "Red", because "WD Red" is where WD slipped SMR in. Damn them.

                            Also isn't Seagate Barracuda also have a few SMR models?
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                              @lumiworx@mastodon.social @mcc@mastodon.social
                              Yeah that's why I said "Red Pro", not "Red", because "WD Red" is where WD slipped SMR in. Damn them.

                              Also isn't Seagate Barracuda also have a few SMR models?
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                              @Orca @mcc

                              For Barracuda... yes, most have SMR until you get to the 'Pro' series, which are mostly CMR.

                              I suggested "at least a Baracuda" as they were engineered to be business-class drives and had better performance for standard hard drives. If you're stuck at purchase time with fewer choices, then they will offer a minimum of quality for heavier demand users.

                              After getting stung on 3 consecutive WD Red failures after the silent switch over from CMR to SMR... ugh!

                              https://www.seagate.com/products/cmr-smr-list/

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

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                                ME: I want a 5 TB hard drive

                                Amazon: We can do that

                                Canada Computers: I can give you 12 TB for twice the price

                                Christine: Wait, Canada Computers has 12 TB drives for *how* much? Get two

                                Me, walking back from yonge-dundas square the next morning, absolutely twisted, carrying 24 TB of platter drives:

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                                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                  ME: I want a 5 TB hard drive

                                  Amazon: We can do that

                                  Canada Computers: I can give you 12 TB for twice the price

                                  Christine: Wait, Canada Computers has 12 TB drives for *how* much? Get two

                                  Me, walking back from yonge-dundas square the next morning, absolutely twisted, carrying 24 TB of platter drives:

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                                  @mcc I got the last of my disks shipped to me from the US, and I have about 200TB of storage in the house.

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                                  • cliftonr@wandering.shopC cliftonr@wandering.shop

                                    @mcc

                                    Now I see you're thinking about those portable drive-in-a-box things, I would not trust any brand of those. I've seen too many, of many different brands, abruptly die on people.

                                    My wife has a WD Passport from & for her job, and that's been doing OK but I still wouldn't trust it.

                                    On my desktop computer I use one of the USB-3 to SATA adapter thingies that you can plug any SATA drive into and have it show up.

                                    If you want to carry it around, then ya, you have to figure out an enclosure.

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                                    @CliftonR @mcc many of those external from the factory Heads are "shingled" sectors, which write a lot slower and have very high failure rates.

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                                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                      ME: I want a 5 TB hard drive

                                      Amazon: We can do that

                                      Canada Computers: I can give you 12 TB for twice the price

                                      Christine: Wait, Canada Computers has 12 TB drives for *how* much? Get two

                                      Me, walking back from yonge-dundas square the next morning, absolutely twisted, carrying 24 TB of platter drives:

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                                      @mcc they’ve got 14tb drives for about $500 apparently, which

                                      I need another couple 14tb drives but I don’t $1000 need them… but what if they get more expensive…

                                      (alas, now is not the time for me to buy new hard drives anyway)

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                                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                        ME: I want a 5 TB hard drive

                                        Amazon: We can do that

                                        Canada Computers: I can give you 12 TB for twice the price

                                        Christine: Wait, Canada Computers has 12 TB drives for *how* much? Get two

                                        Me, walking back from yonge-dundas square the next morning, absolutely twisted, carrying 24 TB of platter drives:

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                                        Hey if I want to format an HD for archival purposes, and I want it to be accessible from both Windows* and Linux** without problems, do I use… exfat? Will exfat freak out if I format it at absurdly high sizes like 12 TB, or give me an annoyingly high "minimum file size" or something? Are there any more-reliable/journaled FSes that both these OSes are happy with?

                                        * 10
                                        ** Let's say Debian Trixie

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