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Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days.

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  • rotopenguin@mastodon.socialR rotopenguin@mastodon.social

    @ratsnakegames love seeing the 8TB Lenovo microSD cards on Aliexpress

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    @rotopenguin yeah, like, ideally don't buy those

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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

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      @mcc Hmm... just spotted that this is an external drive. Those have two additional problems: it connects via USB, which is often flaky and can drop writes if you have the wrong USB hardware on the host (or in the enclosure); and the model numbers on the wrapper don't necessarily correspond to the same drive model internally.

      Anyway, I'll ask...

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

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        @mcc I’ve only had WD drives die of old age. (As in several years actually powered on.)

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        • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

          @rotopenguin yeah, like, ideally don't buy those

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          @ratsnakegames there's another version of flash card fraud going around, cards that *do* possess the advertised size. These are included with a lot of emulation systems, I don't know if they have escaped containment into any other market yet.

          The thing with them is, the cards come loaded with stuff, you can write to them somewhat, but they die from a wholesale rewrite. I suspect that they are leaving out the erase circuitry, for however much die space/process steps that saves.

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          • cliftonr@wandering.shopC cliftonr@wandering.shop

            @mcc

            If you get the Western Digital "Red" product line of drives, which are officially blessed and branded for NAS use, they're very good and very stable.

            I have found over time that across several manufacturers it's worth buying hard drives labeled for NAS use, because they seem to be built and tested to higher standards, so I now use them for backups as well.

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            @CliftonR hm interesting, that will require an enclosure though I guess

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            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

              Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

              Amazon.ca

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              @mcc yeah. I've had a couple usb WD hdds over the years, they've always been stable and their USB implementation is better than most of the generic caddies. Wouldn't recommend doing RAID or anything similarly fancy on it but for a single drive setup, absolutely fine.

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              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

                Amazon.ca

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                @mcc @gnomon knows.

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                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                  Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

                  Amazon.ca

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                  @mcc
                  You'll pay this a premium+ price, or more.

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                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                    @mcc @gnomon knows.

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                    @mhoye @mcc you'll get better value for money by buying an internal 3.5" WD mechanical drive and a cheap dock, but that USB drive is fine. Nothing wrong with it.

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                    • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

                      @mcc If the seller is Amazon, no, you should be fine.

                      If Amazon is just shipping from their warehouse, vendors have managed to get fakes in there in the past.

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                      @ratsnakegames @mcc it's an extra $20 but it might be worth buying it directly from WD

                      https://www.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/portable-drives/wd-elements-portable-usb-3-0-hdd?sku=WDBU6Y0050BBK-WESN

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                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                        @CliftonR hm interesting, that will require an enclosure though I guess

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                        @mcc

                        Now I see you're thinking about those portable drive-in-a-box things, I would not trust any brand of those. I've seen too many, of many different brands, abruptly die on people.

                        My wife has a WD Passport from & for her job, and that's been doing OK but I still wouldn't trust it.

                        On my desktop computer I use one of the USB-3 to SATA adapter thingies that you can plug any SATA drive into and have it show up.

                        If you want to carry it around, then ya, you have to figure out an enclosure.

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

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                          @mcc Not sure if relevant to an external hdd you'd buy in 2026, but I have had an internal 5TB WD drive running 24/7 for uh, I think it's been 16 years now. So yeah, decent quality there.

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                          • cliftonr@wandering.shopC cliftonr@wandering.shop

                            @mcc

                            Now I see you're thinking about those portable drive-in-a-box things, I would not trust any brand of those. I've seen too many, of many different brands, abruptly die on people.

                            My wife has a WD Passport from & for her job, and that's been doing OK but I still wouldn't trust it.

                            On my desktop computer I use one of the USB-3 to SATA adapter thingies that you can plug any SATA drive into and have it show up.

                            If you want to carry it around, then ya, you have to figure out an enclosure.

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                            @mcc

                            This, specifically:

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                            • kimiko_0@wetdry.worldK kimiko_0@wetdry.world

                              @mcc Not sure if relevant to an external hdd you'd buy in 2026, but I have had an internal 5TB WD drive running 24/7 for uh, I think it's been 16 years now. So yeah, decent quality there.

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                              @Kimiko_0 is the quality level of a 2010 WD drive necessarily equal to the quality level of a 2026 WD drive?

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                @Kimiko_0 is the quality level of a 2010 WD drive necessarily equal to the quality level of a 2026 WD drive?

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                                @mcc Considering capitalism, probably not necessarily. That's why I said 'not sure if relevant'. If it came to picking WD or another brand though, I'd pick WD based on my own experience, is what I meant to convey.

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                                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                  @darkling if i am looking at a specific WD drive, is there a way of finding out if it's one with a dodgy firmware?

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                                  @mcc @darkling
                                  Durability wise any of the big brands are fine. However the intended use case for different SKUs is gonna matter quite a bit for getting reliablily/performance.

                                  These external drives are tricky because they don't specify what actual hard drive is in there. Sometimes they put some decent drives in there for a lower price than internal and people would shuck them, but it's the exception not the rule.

                                  IMO if you just want cheap mass storage and don't care about the performance (the use case these drives are targeting (say it's to store media/backup)) then just look at GB/$ and pick the cheapest. Otherwise, buy a known quality internal drive and put it in an enclosure.
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                                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                    Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days. If I want to buy a pretty big non-flash hard drive for "backup and throw in a drawer" purposes, is this a good choice

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                                    @mcc@mastodon.social Don't buy portable HDDs. They're mostly SMR and prone to damage.

                                    Get a Purple (surveillance), Red Pro (NAS), Black (performance) or Gold (datacenter, but very pricey, only if you've got the money) if you're going for WD drives. Get a decent enclosure (there are a lot of cheap but unstable enclosure on the market), too.
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                                    • orca@nya.oneO orca@nya.one
                                      @mcc@mastodon.social Don't buy portable HDDs. They're mostly SMR and prone to damage.

                                      Get a Purple (surveillance), Red Pro (NAS), Black (performance) or Gold (datacenter, but very pricey, only if you've got the money) if you're going for WD drives. Get a decent enclosure (there are a lot of cheap but unstable enclosure on the market), too.
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                                      @Orca @mcc

                                      I would remind everyone that WD screwed every customer with the SMR debacle not long ago. They flat out, lied about their components, and rendered NAS devices useless for those expecting ultra-reliable hardware.

                                      My experience with WD externals, ala 'Passport' and 'MyBook', is that they struggle to stay connected and fluctuate wildly in transfer speeds.

                                      I switched over to Seagate IronWolfe, or at least Barracuda for desktops, and EXO or Helium filled.

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                                        @Orca @mcc

                                        I would remind everyone that WD screwed every customer with the SMR debacle not long ago. They flat out, lied about their components, and rendered NAS devices useless for those expecting ultra-reliable hardware.

                                        My experience with WD externals, ala 'Passport' and 'MyBook', is that they struggle to stay connected and fluctuate wildly in transfer speeds.

                                        I switched over to Seagate IronWolfe, or at least Barracuda for desktops, and EXO or Helium filled.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        The Cost Per Gigabyte of Hard Drives Over Time

                                        For hard drive prices, the race to zero is over: nobody won. As you’ll see, the hard drive pricing curve has flattened out.

                                        favicon

                                        Backblaze Blog | Cloud Storage & Cloud Backup (www.backblaze.com)

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                                        @Orca @mcc

                                        I think in the long run, it's better for me to get the drive I want as an internal and buy an enclosure to fit it for external use. USB 3.1 if possible, and USB-C if it's practical.

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                                        • lumiworx@mastodon.socialL lumiworx@mastodon.social

                                          @Orca @mcc

                                          I would remind everyone that WD screwed every customer with the SMR debacle not long ago. They flat out, lied about their components, and rendered NAS devices useless for those expecting ultra-reliable hardware.

                                          My experience with WD externals, ala 'Passport' and 'MyBook', is that they struggle to stay connected and fluctuate wildly in transfer speeds.

                                          I switched over to Seagate IronWolfe, or at least Barracuda for desktops, and EXO or Helium filled.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          The Cost Per Gigabyte of Hard Drives Over Time

                                          For hard drive prices, the race to zero is over: nobody won. As you’ll see, the hard drive pricing curve has flattened out.

                                          favicon

                                          Backblaze Blog | Cloud Storage & Cloud Backup (www.backblaze.com)

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                                          @lumiworx@mastodon.social @mcc@mastodon.social
                                          Yeah that's why I said "Red Pro", not "Red", because "WD Red" is where WD slipped SMR in. Damn them.

                                          Also isn't Seagate Barracuda also have a few SMR models?
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