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  3. Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

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  • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

    Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

    At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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    @OGJester
    "At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this (AI) is"

    I think you need to go beyond asking what the benefit-to-cost ratio is.
    I suspect that the sign is actually negative (because of the negative net benefit to society and for that matter our continued civilised existence on earth).

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    • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

      Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

      At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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      @OGJester
      It's going to make a hell of a pop when it goes.

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      • rhodium103@mastodon.socialR rhodium103@mastodon.social

        @OGJester
        It's going to make a hell of a pop when it goes.

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        @Rhodium103 @OGJester oh that’s ok we’re all here to pitch in and bail them out, those investors won’t even miss their tee time.

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        • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

          Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

          At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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          @OGJester

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          • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

            Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

            At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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            @OGJester But is it real money? Aren't most of the AI numbers based on this circular "investing" in each other scam?

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            • bastelwombat@chaos.socialB bastelwombat@chaos.social

              @OGJester But is it real money? Aren't most of the AI numbers based on this circular "investing" in each other scam?

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              @bastelwombat Regardless of whether it’s actual money or circular investing, real data centers are being built, and they’re consuming real energy.

              Our entire economy has become scam-based, so I guess this all tracks.

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              • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

                At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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                @OGJester but they wouldn't invest money for useful things - at least not for useful things that are usefull for most people

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                • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                  Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

                  At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

                  kanamauna@sauropods.winK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @OGJester

                  That's...a lot. Wouldn't it have been easier if the billionaires just cosplayed in Galt's Gulch.

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                  • kanamauna@sauropods.winK kanamauna@sauropods.win

                    @OGJester

                    That's...a lot. Wouldn't it have been easier if the billionaires just cosplayed in Galt's Gulch.

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                    @KanaMauna No doubt.

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                    • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                      Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

                      At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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                      @OGJester

                      Yes thank you, thats the correct path.

                      Towns and small cities are doing the heavy lifting now, they shouldn't be alone.

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                      • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                        Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

                        At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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                        @OGJester
                        Investor: with this money, we could build a country connected by train
                        CEO: OR, with this money, we could have fewer employees
                        Investor: take my money

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                        • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                          Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

                          At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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                          @OGJester I would prefer to build a self-sufficient lunar habitat, but I think the overinvestment in AI will yield cheap HPC infrastructure that’ll help further other goals.

                          Military spending would be a nice thing to cut and shift part of the resources to soft diplomacy.

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                          • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                            Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

                            At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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                            @OGJester

                            This is Capital trying to save itself by swimming against the rip current.

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                            • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                              Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

                              At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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                              @OGJester hi, does the graph come with a news source? just so I can quote it

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                              • catarinac@masto.ptC catarinac@masto.pt

                                @OGJester hi, does the graph come with a news source? just so I can quote it

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                                @catarinac I’m doing some digging… I will let you know what I find.

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                                • catarinac@masto.ptC catarinac@masto.pt

                                  @OGJester hi, does the graph come with a news source? just so I can quote it

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                                  @catarinac This seems to be the source of the image:

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                                  Bull of the Day: Bloom Energy (BE)

                                  The biggest bottleneck to the AI revolution isn't chips or software-it's the power to run them. With the U.S. electrical grid reaching its breaking point, big tech is turning to on-site generation to keep the lights on.

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                                  Zacks Investment Research (www.zacks.com)

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                                  • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                                    @catarinac This seems to be the source of the image:

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                                    Bull of the Day: Bloom Energy (BE)

                                    The biggest bottleneck to the AI revolution isn't chips or software-it's the power to run them. With the U.S. electrical grid reaching its breaking point, big tech is turning to on-site generation to keep the lights on.

                                    favicon

                                    Zacks Investment Research (www.zacks.com)

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                                    @OGJester Thank you!

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                                    • ogjester@pnw.zoneO ogjester@pnw.zone

                                      Correcting for inflation, by the end of 2026, we will have spent more on AI than we spent building the entire Interstate Highway System and the transcontinental railroads (all four of them) combined.

                                      At some point, society needs to be asking what the benefit-to-cost value is to all this, because we could just tax all this money from billionaires and do stuff with it that’s actually useful.

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                                      This comparison is fundamentally broken. It mixes private capital chasing returns with public spending funded by taxpayer. Those are not interchangeable pools of money. You can’t just “tax it instead” without eliminating the very investment driving the growth.

                                      More importantly, it treats AI like a static project (roads, rail) instead of what it actually is: a general-purpose productivity technology, like electricity or computing, that increases output across every industry. The benefit isn’t …

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                                      • shoq@mastodon.socialS shoq@mastodon.social

                                        This comparison is fundamentally broken. It mixes private capital chasing returns with public spending funded by taxpayer. Those are not interchangeable pools of money. You can’t just “tax it instead” without eliminating the very investment driving the growth.

                                        More importantly, it treats AI like a static project (roads, rail) instead of what it actually is: a general-purpose productivity technology, like electricity or computing, that increases output across every industry. The benefit isn’t …

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                                        @shoq Explain "Not interchangeable pools of money". When our major problems are not AI and it's all speculation that it will have some "wisdom". Lets face real problems, starting with our environment, starvation around the world, War's of no meaning except death. Morons who think they are god, that they have a right to compel the rest of us to follow them "Just on account of because" they are wealthy or powerful.

                                        Money is simple, it's all one pool, Money spent here is not spent there.

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