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The money is there, or was..

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  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

    The money is there, or was..

    strawdog@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @stux In discussions with neolibs I rather encounter the argument "the state can't deliver quality healthcare, it would all be bureaucracy and long wait times" or "it would remove all competition out of the healthcare sector and things will get worse and worse" or even better "you will take the right of people to choose to pay for the healthcare they want". On the other hand the US government has a fracking expensive military apparatus driving up markets, competition and technological progress in weapons manufacturing while literally nobody (not even their congress) has a say in what they fracking use it for. One would think these guys see the contradiction. But never saw one realize it.

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    • argonaut@mastodon.socialA argonaut@mastodon.social

      @stux @rudy
      The U.S. Has Burned Through Over $2.4 Billion Worth of Patriot Missile Interceptors in Just Five Days of War with Iran

      “the United States Army has expended over 800 anti-ballistic missiles from MIM-104 Patriot long range air defence systems during just five days of hostilities with Iran”

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      (militarywatchmagazine.com)

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      @argonaut
      Which is more than Ukraine fired over the entire war. A war of no choice.
      @stux @rudy

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      • strawdog@infosec.exchangeS strawdog@infosec.exchange

        @stux In discussions with neolibs I rather encounter the argument "the state can't deliver quality healthcare, it would all be bureaucracy and long wait times" or "it would remove all competition out of the healthcare sector and things will get worse and worse" or even better "you will take the right of people to choose to pay for the healthcare they want". On the other hand the US government has a fracking expensive military apparatus driving up markets, competition and technological progress in weapons manufacturing while literally nobody (not even their congress) has a say in what they fracking use it for. One would think these guys see the contradiction. But never saw one realize it.

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        @StrawDog @stux State healthcare haver here. We do sometimes have long waits because the neolibs in power deliberately underfunded it to make it look like there's a problem for private enterprise to solve. It literally has to be sabotaged to be worse.

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        • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

          @StrawDog @stux State healthcare haver here. We do sometimes have long waits because the neolibs in power deliberately underfunded it to make it look like there's a problem for private enterprise to solve. It literally has to be sabotaged to be worse.

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          @woe2you @stux I know ... but in the defense industry you can see to which "technological wonders" and fruity competition government overspending can lead.

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          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

            The money is there, or was..

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            @stux I think it is important to point out; today's money is basically an entry a spreadsheet. Stolen labor is creating wealth, weapons, healthcare and trains.

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            • cehteh@karlsruhe-social.deC cehteh@karlsruhe-social.de

              @argonaut @stux @rudy

              As much this numbers may be sadly true, be careful with the linked site. Looks like some Pro-Russian Propaganda Outlet to me.

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              @cehteh @stux @rudy
              it IS a russian propaganda site: https://militarnyi.com/en/blogs/military-experts-are-ecstatic-how-russia-uses-pseudo-experts-to-spread-military-fakes/

              but they have the correct numbers and unfortunately i cannot spend half of my morning to post a fully purity-checked site because i have a life too.

              consider the irony that a pro-russia site has more accurate info that most US media outlets.

              also, which one of the US ones today is not also a pro-russia propaganda outlet?

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              • argonaut@mastodon.socialA argonaut@mastodon.social

                @cehteh @stux @rudy
                it IS a russian propaganda site: https://militarnyi.com/en/blogs/military-experts-are-ecstatic-how-russia-uses-pseudo-experts-to-spread-military-fakes/

                but they have the correct numbers and unfortunately i cannot spend half of my morning to post a fully purity-checked site because i have a life too.

                consider the irony that a pro-russia site has more accurate info that most US media outlets.

                also, which one of the US ones today is not also a pro-russia propaganda outlet?

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                @argonaut @cehteh @rudy Take the numbers with a grain of salt, just know it's a shit ton money for the average person

                Too much

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                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                  The money is there, or was..

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                  @stux

                  this applies to Europe just as much to the USA

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                  • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                    @stux

                    this applies to Europe just as much to the USA

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                    @charlesdelavalleepoussin it goes world wide unfort

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                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                      @charlesdelavalleepoussin it goes world wide unfort

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                      #37

                      @stux

                      but especially Euope and the USA

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