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The money is there, or was..

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  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

    The money is there, or was..

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    #16

    @stux
    And this is only the tip of the iceburg. If we stopped using an inherently scarce medium like money to count for things, we could afford to let everyone have a high standard of living, in a way that was both sustainable and environmentally friendly. But that would mean no ridiculously rich people so...

    (edit: typo)

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    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

      The money is there, or was..

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      #17

      @stux truth ☝️

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      • rahibyagub@mastodon.socialR rahibyagub@mastodon.social

        @stux @akaxredd

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        #18

        @rahibyagub @stux send tabj

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        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

          The money is there, or was..

          riverpunk@defcon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #19

          @stux even before thinking about how much the US spends on actual weapons and military stuff, it's important to realize how much is simply *wasted* because it's getting skimmed off the top by contractors, inefficiency, or just straight up fraud.

          One of the consequences of having a functionally infinite funding stream for a department is that nobody involved thinks of money as a scarce resource, and so they walk the department into fuckass rip-offs.

          Recently read a pretty good Cory Doctorow post talking about this.

          https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/24/mamdani-thought/#:~:text=Turning,business,-%21

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          • gettie@fedi.catto.gardenG gettie@fedi.catto.garden
            @stux being pro-war is the most disgusting thing
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            #20

            @gettie I posit being Republican is worse because they're like this even without war so billionaires can exist.

            @stux

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            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

              The money is there, or was..

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              #21

              @stux
              Ferengi rule of acquisition 34: War is good for business.

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              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                The money is there, or was..

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                #22

                @stux I have heard that only the friends of the "enemy" are against wars and military equipment....

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                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                  The money is there, or was..

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                  #23

                  @stux Look here, if we did not throw billions in weaponry at the "bad people" they would eventually come over and take away the healthcare we have. You don't want that, do you? Once we have stopped the "bad people" we will give everybody everything. I solemnly swear.

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                  • argonaut@mastodon.socialA argonaut@mastodon.social

                    @stux @rudy
                    The U.S. Has Burned Through Over $2.4 Billion Worth of Patriot Missile Interceptors in Just Five Days of War with Iran

                    “the United States Army has expended over 800 anti-ballistic missiles from MIM-104 Patriot long range air defence systems during just five days of hostilities with Iran”

                    https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/us-patriot-interceptors-five-days-iran

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                    #24

                    @argonaut @stux @rudy

                    As much this numbers may be sadly true, be careful with the linked site. Looks like some Pro-Russian Propaganda Outlet to me.

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                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                      The money is there, or was..

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                      #25

                      @stux

                      It’s a matter of killing innocent people vs curing innocent people.

                      Easy choice isn’t it?

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                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                        The money is there, or was..

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                        #26

                        @stux they ll never listen 👂 until u start boycott them

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                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                          The money is there, or was..

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                          #27

                          @stux
                          no no, the money is in another pocket.
                          what you see is what the money is spend too

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                          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                            The money is there, or was..

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                            @stux In discussions with neolibs I rather encounter the argument "the state can't deliver quality healthcare, it would all be bureaucracy and long wait times" or "it would remove all competition out of the healthcare sector and things will get worse and worse" or even better "you will take the right of people to choose to pay for the healthcare they want". On the other hand the US government has a fracking expensive military apparatus driving up markets, competition and technological progress in weapons manufacturing while literally nobody (not even their congress) has a say in what they fracking use it for. One would think these guys see the contradiction. But never saw one realize it.

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                            • argonaut@mastodon.socialA argonaut@mastodon.social

                              @stux @rudy
                              The U.S. Has Burned Through Over $2.4 Billion Worth of Patriot Missile Interceptors in Just Five Days of War with Iran

                              “the United States Army has expended over 800 anti-ballistic missiles from MIM-104 Patriot long range air defence systems during just five days of hostilities with Iran”

                              https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/us-patriot-interceptors-five-days-iran

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                              #29

                              @argonaut
                              Which is more than Ukraine fired over the entire war. A war of no choice.
                              @stux @rudy

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                              • strawdog@infosec.exchangeS strawdog@infosec.exchange

                                @stux In discussions with neolibs I rather encounter the argument "the state can't deliver quality healthcare, it would all be bureaucracy and long wait times" or "it would remove all competition out of the healthcare sector and things will get worse and worse" or even better "you will take the right of people to choose to pay for the healthcare they want". On the other hand the US government has a fracking expensive military apparatus driving up markets, competition and technological progress in weapons manufacturing while literally nobody (not even their congress) has a say in what they fracking use it for. One would think these guys see the contradiction. But never saw one realize it.

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                                @StrawDog @stux State healthcare haver here. We do sometimes have long waits because the neolibs in power deliberately underfunded it to make it look like there's a problem for private enterprise to solve. It literally has to be sabotaged to be worse.

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                                • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

                                  @StrawDog @stux State healthcare haver here. We do sometimes have long waits because the neolibs in power deliberately underfunded it to make it look like there's a problem for private enterprise to solve. It literally has to be sabotaged to be worse.

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                                  @woe2you @stux I know ... but in the defense industry you can see to which "technological wonders" and fruity competition government overspending can lead.

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                                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                    The money is there, or was..

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                                    @stux I think it is important to point out; today's money is basically an entry a spreadsheet. Stolen labor is creating wealth, weapons, healthcare and trains.

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                                    • cehteh@karlsruhe-social.deC cehteh@karlsruhe-social.de

                                      @argonaut @stux @rudy

                                      As much this numbers may be sadly true, be careful with the linked site. Looks like some Pro-Russian Propaganda Outlet to me.

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                                      @cehteh @stux @rudy
                                      it IS a russian propaganda site: https://militarnyi.com/en/blogs/military-experts-are-ecstatic-how-russia-uses-pseudo-experts-to-spread-military-fakes/

                                      but they have the correct numbers and unfortunately i cannot spend half of my morning to post a fully purity-checked site because i have a life too.

                                      consider the irony that a pro-russia site has more accurate info that most US media outlets.

                                      also, which one of the US ones today is not also a pro-russia propaganda outlet?

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                                      • argonaut@mastodon.socialA argonaut@mastodon.social

                                        @cehteh @stux @rudy
                                        it IS a russian propaganda site: https://militarnyi.com/en/blogs/military-experts-are-ecstatic-how-russia-uses-pseudo-experts-to-spread-military-fakes/

                                        but they have the correct numbers and unfortunately i cannot spend half of my morning to post a fully purity-checked site because i have a life too.

                                        consider the irony that a pro-russia site has more accurate info that most US media outlets.

                                        also, which one of the US ones today is not also a pro-russia propaganda outlet?

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                                        @argonaut @cehteh @rudy Take the numbers with a grain of salt, just know it's a shit ton money for the average person

                                        Too much

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                                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                          The money is there, or was..

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                                          #35

                                          @stux

                                          this applies to Europe just as much to the USA

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