I've been scouring the web for peoples opinion on #EVi and I'm seeing a lot of unfair assumptions and judgement for a project forked 3 days ago.
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I've been scouring the web for peoples opinion on #EVi and I'm seeing a lot of unfair assumptions and judgement for a project forked 3 days ago.
Don't mind if I vent for a second? Please read.
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I've been scouring the web for peoples opinion on #EVi and I'm seeing a lot of unfair assumptions and judgement for a project forked 3 days ago.
Don't mind if I vent for a second? Please read.
🧵
We are not a startup, we have few contributors and even fewer maintainers. We are a group of volunteers trying to continue VIm without AI slop code. We barely know each other. This fork started 3 days ago, be realistic please.
We're also trying to take on a codebase that has been going for decades that only has fallen to the dark side now.
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We are not a startup, we have few contributors and even fewer maintainers. We are a group of volunteers trying to continue VIm without AI slop code. We barely know each other. This fork started 3 days ago, be realistic please.
We're also trying to take on a codebase that has been going for decades that only has fallen to the dark side now.
From lobste.rs to Lemmy to Hacker News, we’ve been getting shit left and right in comments for forking the project. This is not everyone however.
(https://lobste.rs/s/izprt4/evi_hard_fork_vim
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47321085
https://lemmy.org/post/4418940)This isn't a political move nor an ideological one. Not a fork out of spite. This is a fork out of preventing bad AI code that is also fucking our environment from seeping into programs we love.
We don't hate VIm, nor the lead maintainer, but we do not support their actions.
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From lobste.rs to Lemmy to Hacker News, we’ve been getting shit left and right in comments for forking the project. This is not everyone however.
(https://lobste.rs/s/izprt4/evi_hard_fork_vim
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47321085
https://lemmy.org/post/4418940)This isn't a political move nor an ideological one. Not a fork out of spite. This is a fork out of preventing bad AI code that is also fucking our environment from seeping into programs we love.
We don't hate VIm, nor the lead maintainer, but we do not support their actions.
Yes, we renamed the project first. We can't also be named VIm, that causes a lot of confusion. We need to get our branding straight. You don't fork a project, wait a month after popularity and then rename it.
And yes, I take full responsibility for putting us on a bad codebase that still had AI in it, but that's hard to avoid in something like this. This goes back months, potentially years. We have however went back to a commit we believe should be clean.
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Yes, we renamed the project first. We can't also be named VIm, that causes a lot of confusion. We need to get our branding straight. You don't fork a project, wait a month after popularity and then rename it.
And yes, I take full responsibility for putting us on a bad codebase that still had AI in it, but that's hard to avoid in something like this. This goes back months, potentially years. We have however went back to a commit we believe should be clean.
Another thing I'd like to point out too, before asking us why we did this and asking about the point of a fork like this, maybe consider what AI is currently doing to the tech space right now.
Not to mention, we are on #Codeberg because we don't support GitHub's partnerships with ICE, their stance and forcing of AI, among many other things.
I've had a BlueSky user try to put me and EVi in a bad light which makes no sense because what they claim has been removed is still in the README of EVi.
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Another thing I'd like to point out too, before asking us why we did this and asking about the point of a fork like this, maybe consider what AI is currently doing to the tech space right now.
Not to mention, we are on #Codeberg because we don't support GitHub's partnerships with ICE, their stance and forcing of AI, among many other things.
I've had a BlueSky user try to put me and EVi in a bad light which makes no sense because what they claim has been removed is still in the README of EVi.
The source for the BlueSky bad faith: https://mastodon.social/@diddyfo.id@bsky.brid.gy/116205822479369675
If I have anything else, I'll come back and reply to this thread. For now, I thank you all for reading, and I hope that more people understand why EVi exists.
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I've been scouring the web for peoples opinion on #EVi and I'm seeing a lot of unfair assumptions and judgement for a project forked 3 days ago.
Don't mind if I vent for a second? Please read.
🧵
@mrmasterkeyboard My opinion - Vim has no business including AI, it's a terminal/command prompt text editor ffs.
But then, I don't use Vim, don't even like it. I'm a Nano guy if I have to use terminal and edit something. Eww!
So any effort to not do 'AI everything' is a good effort.
Will I use EVi? Probably not. I'll stick to GUI. One comment though - Every time I see the name EVi I'm reminded about electric cars...
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@licho Yeah, VIm fell it to it too unfortunately. so did Neovim.
Thanks for the support too! I'm not sure about AUR packages but hopefully we'll get there soon. I don't use Arch anymore but we'll try to put it there soon.
For now, compiling from source is still really easy.
```
./configure
make -j $(nproc)
sudo make install
```
Install goes to /usr/local in my case.
