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  • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

    one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

    this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

    The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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    @penny
    Gods Sun was so cool.
    Why can't we have Sun and SGI back?
    Why did we get stuck with Apple and Oracle and IBM still not being dead?

    This sucks, I want a refund.
    ...
    Anyway :3 That's such a cool little piece of computing history. I adore how very sun that is. 1wire/iButton was such a better choice than the funny smart card interface for this application IMO, but, lo and behold they backed the wrong horse.

    Oh well. At least they got used for laser tag!

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    • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

      one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

      this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

      The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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      @penny 很棒👍🏻

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      • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

        one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

        this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

        The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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        http://nug.only9fans.com/penny/ibutton made a post about it but it's mostly just a redux of this status

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        • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

          one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

          this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

          The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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          @penny
          I still have mine from the era (or I should say the Epoch). It was a gift from a buddy at the Sun booth in a trade show we were both presenting separately. I was at a consulting firm booth flogging a firewall solution running on Sun hardware and sending folks to his booth after my spiel.

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            @penny
            I still have mine from the era (or I should say the Epoch). It was a gift from a buddy at the Sun booth in a trade show we were both presenting separately. I was at a consulting firm booth flogging a firewall solution running on Sun hardware and sending folks to his booth after my spiel.

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            @DenOfEarth I was wondering how there were so many of them but I guess they just handed out a ton

            yet I can’t even find my white whale a sun microsystems branded yoyo

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            • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

              one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

              this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

              The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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              @penny I used to have one of these. My job involved writing software for these Dallas Software devices and we were given them as part of a promotion when they came out. I wonder were it is now.

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              • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                @DenOfEarth I was wondering how there were so many of them but I guess they just handed out a ton

                yet I can’t even find my white whale a sun microsystems branded yoyo

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                @penny @DenOfEarth A former colleague had a Sun Java leather jacket that was stupidly cool.

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                • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                  one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                  this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                  The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                  @penny Sadly it contains a battery. So the usefulness is limited to its flash.

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                  • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                    one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                    this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                    The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                    @penny I got given one of those at JavaOne. Bizarrely it got stolen (presumably by the office cleaner) - so someone in the Manchester underworld was probably a bit disappointed!

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                    • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                      one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                      this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                      The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                      @penny Interesting. How would you change out the battery on one of these critters without zeroing out the keys?

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                      • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

                        @penny Interesting. How would you change out the battery on one of these critters without zeroing out the keys?

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                        @grumpydad It shouldn’t be possible, they’re rated for ten years though

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                        • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                          one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                          this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                          The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                          @penny I have seen these used to authenticate staff at a POS kiosk, especially in bars and restaurants.

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                          • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                            one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                            this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                            The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                            @penny nice!!!! we saw a couple of those back in the day

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                            • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                              one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                              this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                              The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                              @penny iButtons are still made, but they're just a 1-wire EEPROM with an occasional temperature sensor, the cool JAVA iButtons are not made anymore I think.

                              I got so many free samples from Dallas, but I never managed to get a java one.

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                              • nblr@chaos.socialN nblr@chaos.social

                                @penny Sadly it contains a battery. So the usefulness is limited to its flash.

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                                @nblr @penny just like smart cards. it's still pretty great.

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                                • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                                  one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                                  this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                                  The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                                  @penny why does this remind me of Spaceballs?

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                                  • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                                    one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                                    this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                                    The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                                    @penny Still have my Java ring. If anyone wants it, hmu.

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                                    • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                                      one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                                      this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                                      The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                                      @penny how do you program it?

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                                      • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                                        one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                                        this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                                        The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                                        @penny I remember seeing one of these new, on the finger of a friend who worked for Sun. It's just as chonky now as it was then. stil a cool idea tho 🙂

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                                        • penny@eldritch.cafeP penny@eldritch.cafe

                                          one of these popped up for $25 and I've been wanting one for years so I had to do it

                                          this is a Dallas Semiconductor ibutton which they have affixed to a ring, they were supposed to be highly durable and potentially purvasive hardware authentication tokens. Par for the course for sun they feature an actual jvm which run applets with can crypographically authentice you. It has many hardware features- a battery, which provides an rtc to prevent backdating authentication fames. They're designed to last ten years on a keychain, they're tamper evident if opened and if you open them anyway a microswitch zeroes out the keys. They also zero out on extreme temperatures and unusual voltage conditions.

                                          The ibuttons are still made though no one ever like made them work as a login token for linux or whatever, so you're more likely to find one being used as a key for a safe or a forklift.

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                                          @penny I recently saw a hashtag #WeirdOldTech which this could fit under, maybe.

                                          I'd never heard of a JVM signet ring before. Really cool, but also weird. Thanks for sharing.

                                          Source: https://mastodon.online/@Pepijn/116398629401364698

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