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    @hugh

    the other sad part of this is that it's not only possible to self-host internally, it's vastly cheaper these days. you don't need a raised subfloor data center and multi-million dollar mainframes. a cluster of consumer or low end rackmount computers in a rack running linux scales way past where mainframes went and would solve most company/internal needs.

    there is FOSS and people with the expertise to build, maintain, and secure it.

    put the money into your people, not big-tech clouds and expensive proprietary software licenses and we all win.

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      @hugh

      the other sad part of this is that it's not only possible to self-host internally, it's vastly cheaper these days. you don't need a raised subfloor data center and multi-million dollar mainframes. a cluster of consumer or low end rackmount computers in a rack running linux scales way past where mainframes went and would solve most company/internal needs.

      there is FOSS and people with the expertise to build, maintain, and secure it.

      put the money into your people, not big-tech clouds and expensive proprietary software licenses and we all win.

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      @paul_ipv6 @hugh Counterpoint: where is your B site? What happens when your office catches fire, or floods, or has a power outage? What's your BCP? What does your HVAC look like? How do you handle offsite backups? How much are you willing to spend to reproduce all this infrastructure that the cloud provides as part of its cost?

      I have no problem developing software for a bespoke task in-house, but "run a linux server" is about as far from a bespoke task as you can get, and a lot of the "just get a wire shelf of repurposed mid-towers with no thought for the morrow" is simply gambling with everyone's livelihood.

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        @paul_ipv6 @hugh Counterpoint: where is your B site? What happens when your office catches fire, or floods, or has a power outage? What's your BCP? What does your HVAC look like? How do you handle offsite backups? How much are you willing to spend to reproduce all this infrastructure that the cloud provides as part of its cost?

        I have no problem developing software for a bespoke task in-house, but "run a linux server" is about as far from a bespoke task as you can get, and a lot of the "just get a wire shelf of repurposed mid-towers with no thought for the morrow" is simply gambling with everyone's livelihood.

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        @jcape @hugh

        read the thread. i'm advocating for govt/large corp to actually hire and keep their own talent to do this. if they can't handle backups, offsite, redundancy, hire better. it's not an either or situation.

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